| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 229154 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.
The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.
Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.
It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.
People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.
It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.
But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.
Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot. 
I will be watching with great interest anyway.
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:07 - Nov 6 with 1194 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:03 - Nov 6 by onehunglow |
As I say, he is a proven liar.
I have adduced evidence so be gracious enough to accept you might not be as right a you think you are |
As is every single politician who has held office, it goes with the job and I don’t for one second think you don’t know that.
There is no “being right”, this isn’t my opinion, his achievements are factual and documented. I think you just have to accept you have a grudge, simple as that. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:35 - Nov 6 with 1162 views | Dr_Parnassus |
If anyone wants a laugh, take a peek at the other forum.
My toes are yet to unfurl, I have never seen such an echo chamber of nonsense before. It’s like a mini Swansea cult over there. I particularly liked the fact that “prof” says he can’t post here because he gets too riled by inequality and racism.... when I am yet to see a single racist comment or support for inequality.
The lefties on there are bonkers. There is a meme waiting to be made surely with that Hayley Joel Osman kid “I see racists!”. It’s unbelievable.
It says something when Darren comes across as mildly sensible | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:37 - Nov 6 with 1157 views | Gwyn737 |
Looks like PN has gone blue with others likely to follow.
If Trump keeps NC then the Dems predictions will pretty much come to fruition.
If Georgia flips I'll definitely back them in joining the 6 Nations in place of Italy  |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:51 - Nov 6 with 1136 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:37 - Nov 6 by Gwyn737 |
Looks like PN has gone blue with others likely to follow.
If Trump keeps NC then the Dems predictions will pretty much come to fruition.
If Georgia flips I'll definitely back them in joining the 6 Nations in place of Italy |
What Dem predictions?
This vote has gone absolutely nowhere near what they were expecting and has been a huge shock to their system. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:58 - Nov 6 with 1126 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:51 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
What Dem predictions?
This vote has gone absolutely nowhere near what they were expecting and has been a huge shock to their system. |
In regard to margins, yes. But state wise these were the ones I saw them predict wins in.
If the Dems win Georgia, I'm looking forward to finding out how widespread electoral fraud was committed in a Republican state.
Quite right they should investigate all concerns, however if Trump's ramblings last night are proved to be false there should be some accountability for him.
You know that I have given credit to Trump's success on this board, but if his accusations are unfounded then I'm afraid that's going to be his legacy. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:59 - Nov 6 with 1125 views | onehunglow |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:04 - Nov 6 by Groo |
We're just observers, although in Alberta where we depend on the oil industry its true that Trump is the better option.
I don't like Trump as he has a problem with the truth, uses twitter too much and totally downplays a killer pandemic.
Biden needs help to remember where the toilet is and is unlikely to last the term and Harris who would take over is seen as a Corbyn like character.
Hard to believe in a Country of over 3 million, these are the best candidates. |
That s about as I see it Groo.
O do get piddled off however with ageist comments,as if young people are the only ones who can think. Trump is 74 and is permanent tanned . That in itself should sound alarm bells.
Think I’ll go Out to Alberta
Weather s good there in the Fall. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:06 - Nov 6 with 1112 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:58 - Nov 6 by Gwyn737 |
In regard to margins, yes. But state wise these were the ones I saw them predict wins in.
If the Dems win Georgia, I'm looking forward to finding out how widespread electoral fraud was committed in a Republican state.
Quite right they should investigate all concerns, however if Trump's ramblings last night are proved to be false there should be some accountability for him.
You know that I have given credit to Trump's success on this board, but if his accusations are unfounded then I'm afraid that's going to be his legacy. |
“Ramblings”, “his accusations” - do you see the issue there? People refuse to state their biases. This isn’t something “he” made up. It’s what is coming to light from employees of the postal service and the ballot counting process, not to mention initial investigations by normal people confused by statistical anomalies.
There is clear evidence of voter fraud, clear evidence. Of what scale that is on we are unsure, but it needs a thorough investigation. An investigation that Dems and their supporters should welcome.
He has every right to be concerned by this mail in ballot process which is looking even more concerning than was thought when it was initially suggested. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:09 - Nov 6 with 1107 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:06 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
“Ramblings”, “his accusations” - do you see the issue there? People refuse to state their biases. This isn’t something “he” made up. It’s what is coming to light from employees of the postal service and the ballot counting process, not to mention initial investigations by normal people confused by statistical anomalies.
There is clear evidence of voter fraud, clear evidence. Of what scale that is on we are unsure, but it needs a thorough investigation. An investigation that Dems and their supporters should welcome.
He has every right to be concerned by this mail in ballot process which is looking even more concerning than was thought when it was initially suggested. |
He was rambling, and as things stand voter fraud on the scale he suggested is an accusation. | | | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:18 - Nov 6 with 1094 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:09 - Nov 6 by Gwyn737 |
He was rambling, and as things stand voter fraud on the scale he suggested is an accusation. |
He wasn’t rambling, he was speaking.
He didn’t suggest a scale, he said there was voter fraud and huge integrity issues with universal mail in balloting. Which there is and which I highlighted months ago.
Dead people have received and sent ballots, postal workers coming out saying they are asked to backdate illegal batches of votes, video of counters throwing votes away (after flipping them off bizarrely), postman giving away batches of undeliverable ballots to someone who asks for them, thousands of votes cast from people that don’t live in the state anymore (10,000 in Nevada was the latest suggestion), ballot harvesting squads on behalf of Ilhan Omar (who got re-elected), illegally counted votes that had no observers (we are talking hundreds of thousands in the period Biden miraculously seemed to be getting 95%+ of vote batches) etc etc etc
This is the scale. Now what the investigation needs to determine is what affect this had in what was an extremely tight race. And as I said, every single person should be on board with wanting this investigation and legal probe.
Universal mail in balloting was a disaster. The disaster it was predicted to be. [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 15:34]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:34 - Nov 6 with 1079 views | Drizzy |
Dim's meltdown makes for thoroughly enjoyable reading.
America is one small step closer to being a progressive society that values all lives equally.
Back to the YouTube comments section for the likes of Dim and Kerouac. Licking their wounds with fellow conspiracy nuts and incels.
Congratulations, president Joe Biden! |  |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:40 - Nov 6 with 1076 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:18 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
He wasn’t rambling, he was speaking.
He didn’t suggest a scale, he said there was voter fraud and huge integrity issues with universal mail in balloting. Which there is and which I highlighted months ago.
Dead people have received and sent ballots, postal workers coming out saying they are asked to backdate illegal batches of votes, video of counters throwing votes away (after flipping them off bizarrely), postman giving away batches of undeliverable ballots to someone who asks for them, thousands of votes cast from people that don’t live in the state anymore (10,000 in Nevada was the latest suggestion), ballot harvesting squads on behalf of Ilhan Omar (who got re-elected), illegally counted votes that had no observers (we are talking hundreds of thousands in the period Biden miraculously seemed to be getting 95%+ of vote batches) etc etc etc
This is the scale. Now what the investigation needs to determine is what affect this had in what was an extremely tight race. And as I said, every single person should be on board with wanting this investigation and legal probe.
Universal mail in balloting was a disaster. The disaster it was predicted to be. [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 15:34]
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We don't know that yet though, do we?
There were always going to be voting anomalies but until an investigation shows me the game was changed - and that evidence has to be irrefutable, it just looks like clutching at straws
I see no such evidence so far - just some disconnected examples that by no means would alter any overall result. If evidence is produced, I'll acquiesce for sure.
It would have to be on a big scale, wouldn't it? The Dems could hit 306 which in the words of Kellyanne Conway in 2016 would be a win that is "a landslide, a blowout". | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:44 - Nov 6 with 1072 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:40 - Nov 6 by Gwyn737 |
We don't know that yet though, do we?
There were always going to be voting anomalies but until an investigation shows me the game was changed - and that evidence has to be irrefutable, it just looks like clutching at straws
I see no such evidence so far - just some disconnected examples that by no means would alter any overall result. If evidence is produced, I'll acquiesce for sure.
It would have to be on a big scale, wouldn't it? The Dems could hit 306 which in the words of Kellyanne Conway in 2016 would be a win that is "a landslide, a blowout". |
What don’t we know? That it was a disaster? Yes we know.
There will be questions surrounding this vote probably for the next 4 years, that’s down to the way it was conducted and the gaping holes that was exposed in it. They can’t be denied, only ignored.
No it wouldn’t have to be on mass scale. You cheat vote counts not Electoral college votes. There is less between them in certain states than there was at a Swansea v Yeovil match on a cold rainy Wednesday.
Anyone who suggests this election has been a landslide or blowout... or even anything close, is an idiot. But I’m coming from the angle of common sense as usual, I will leave others to their biases. [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 15:45]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:49 - Nov 6 with 1061 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:34 - Nov 6 by Drizzy |
Dim's meltdown makes for thoroughly enjoyable reading.
America is one small step closer to being a progressive society that values all lives equally.
Back to the YouTube comments section for the likes of Dim and Kerouac. Licking their wounds with fellow conspiracy nuts and incels.
Congratulations, president Joe Biden! |
Yay Drizzy is back. I am enjoying those that are clearly hurt by this vote on this board and the other desperately trying to describe posting sensibly and as usual - a meltdown. Lol.
America has rejected progressive (regressive) nonsense in great numbers. 70 million people, in the face of the most concerted and sustained propaganda effort in modern Western political history. Record numbers of black, Hispanic and minority groups shunning the cause - for good reason.
This election has gone as expected (I also said Biden would win) - the vote however has been a damning indictment on everything the media and the Dems thought was the way forward. America rejects it and voted a Republican senate to stop the bonkers progressive ideals from being implemented (inflicted).
But yes, congratulations Biden. [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 16:05]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:52 - Nov 6 with 1050 views | Gwyn737 |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:44 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
What don’t we know? That it was a disaster? Yes we know.
There will be questions surrounding this vote probably for the next 4 years, that’s down to the way it was conducted and the gaping holes that was exposed in it. They can’t be denied, only ignored.
No it wouldn’t have to be on mass scale. You cheat vote counts not Electoral college votes. There is less between them in certain states than there was at a Swansea v Yeovil match on a cold rainy Wednesday.
Anyone who suggests this election has been a landslide or blowout... or even anything close, is an idiot. But I’m coming from the angle of common sense as usual, I will leave others to their biases. [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 15:45]
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Prove to me the election was 'stolen' then.
Not some random examples, actual proof that the result(s) are wrong to a degree that states have been incorrectly declared.
If the impact isn't that big, lesson can be learnt and the Biden can celebrate his victory.
And yes, I agree, Kellyanne Conway is an idiot. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:56 - Nov 6 with 1047 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:52 - Nov 6 by Gwyn737 |
Prove to me the election was 'stolen' then.
Not some random examples, actual proof that the result(s) are wrong to a degree that states have been incorrectly declared.
If the impact isn't that big, lesson can be learnt and the Biden can celebrate his victory.
And yes, I agree, Kellyanne Conway is an idiot. |
Huh?
Where did I say the election was stolen? We have no idea the scale or effect of these clear gaping wounds in the mail in ballot process. Yet...
All examples of voter fraud and bypassing of legal requirements are “random”. If they weren’t then they wouldn’t be very effective in their aims.
What I have said is that universal mail in balloting would be, and has been, a disaster. We have seen the areas they could, and have been exploited. So now in a race which boils down to relatively small numbers of votes - these should be audited and checked.
Not sure how anyone can disagree really. [Post edited 6 Nov 2020 15:58]
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:26 - Nov 6 with 1024 views | ItchySphincter |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:26 - Nov 6 by Dr_Parnassus |
This has already been explained. Nobody is saying all dead people are Democrats. What we are saying is it’s in Democrat run states that dead people are being sent ballots, which naturally means they are likely to fall into Democrat hands. Like I said, if I dropped a fiver in the Liberty, there is more chance of Swansea fan picking up my cash than a Cardiff fan - nobody is claiming only Swansea fans can pick things up however. |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:27 - Nov 6 with 1023 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:26 - Nov 6 by ItchySphincter |
We? |
Yes. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:29 - Nov 6 with 1021 views | ItchySphincter |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:41 - Nov 6 by Lohengrin |
Maybe not all but I’m sure Joe passed away sometime in the last few weeks. There’s somebody behind the curtains winding a hand crank to operate the strings while a ventriloquist mouths the words that appear on the autocue live from Davos. |
It is actually quite a sad spectacle. I find it hard to feel sorry for him but I kind of do, a bit. | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:31 - Nov 6 with 1014 views | ItchySphincter |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 13:46 - Nov 6 by onehunglow |
He is Not to many.
Most monstrous of his lies was when he tweeted Sean Connery had stepped in to ensure planning permission was given for one of his golf courses . Nothing of the like happened evidenced by the local councillor stating as such. He lied. He is now.
Trump has ruined part of the Aberdeenshire coast and maybe you need to speak with some of them . |
I know I should go down this route but you think some planning permission shenanigans are his most monstrous lies??? | |
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| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:57 - Nov 6 with 994 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:04 - Nov 6 by Groo |
We're just observers, although in Alberta where we depend on the oil industry its true that Trump is the better option.
I don't like Trump as he has a problem with the truth, uses twitter too much and totally downplays a killer pandemic.
Biden needs help to remember where the toilet is and is unlikely to last the term and Harris who would take over is seen as a Corbyn like character.
Hard to believe in a Country of over 3 million, these are the best candidates. |
Of course they are not "the best candidates".
They are, a. the candidate the republican and patriotic people wanted and b. the other one is the one that the Democrat party new they could control and easily replace as soon as he was elected so that the power behind the throne could control the future.
Plus of course they could both afford the humungous cost of running the campaign. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:59 - Nov 6 with 991 views | 34dfgdf54 |
Was speaking to colleagues of mine in Reno and South Carolina today, I asked them what the crack was with these Mail in votes, they seem to think it hasn’t been like it is over here when you’re on the electoral roll and the votes go against national insurance numbers. These main in ballots are literally a piece of paper where you tick your party. The amount of double votes must be unbelievable.
Highest turn out? Hmmm not so sure if what they are saying is correct.
Though everyone I spoke too were voting Trump so they could well be just salty, I have no idea. |  | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:05 - Nov 6 with 986 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 14:58 - Nov 6 by Gwyn737 |
In regard to margins, yes. But state wise these were the ones I saw them predict wins in.
If the Dems win Georgia, I'm looking forward to finding out how widespread electoral fraud was committed in a Republican state.
Quite right they should investigate all concerns, however if Trump's ramblings last night are proved to be false there should be some accountability for him.
You know that I have given credit to Trump's success on this board, but if his accusations are unfounded then I'm afraid that's going to be his legacy. |
"In regard to margins, yes. But state wise these were the ones I saw them predict wins in. "
Precisely, they just knew that they were going to win, they kept saying so.
They kept saying "when all the ballots are counted Biden will be president", they could see the future.
They even continued to say it when Biden was 100s of thousands of votes behind, their time travel machine or crystal ball should be marketed it is so good. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:09 - Nov 6 with 981 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 15:34 - Nov 6 by Drizzy |
Dim's meltdown makes for thoroughly enjoyable reading.
America is one small step closer to being a progressive society that values all lives equally.
Back to the YouTube comments section for the likes of Dim and Kerouac. Licking their wounds with fellow conspiracy nuts and incels.
Congratulations, president Joe Biden! |
You are obviously being serious.
It is hard to understand how you could be that brainwashed that you actually think that the Democrats are going to make the USA better.
The only thing that will get better is the Democrats collective bank balances | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:20 - Nov 6 with 968 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 16:59 - Nov 6 by 34dfgdf54 |
Was speaking to colleagues of mine in Reno and South Carolina today, I asked them what the crack was with these Mail in votes, they seem to think it hasn’t been like it is over here when you’re on the electoral roll and the votes go against national insurance numbers. These main in ballots are literally a piece of paper where you tick your party. The amount of double votes must be unbelievable.
Highest turn out? Hmmm not so sure if what they are saying is correct.
Though everyone I spoke too were voting Trump so they could well be just salty, I have no idea. |
Actually you are correct and you are wrong.
I have found out that it is possible for every voter to look up their own ballot result and others, because they are controlled and logged.
That is how bunches of people who are ardent Trump supporters have found out that they have somehow voted for Biden.
They have also found out that long dead people have voted for Democrats.
They have found out their ballots have not been logged and counted.
They have found that they were given sharpies instead of pens to mark the ballot papers, which the machines cannot read and therefore reject their vote.
There have even been Democrat counters coming forward to say that they have seen ballots with no signatures being accepted, ballots appearing in the middle of the night etc.
Not one of these things make it in to the mass media, but there are websites that are collating the data. | | | |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:23 - Nov 6 with 966 views | Highjack |
| 🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 on 17:20 - Nov 6 by A_Fans_Dad |
Actually you are correct and you are wrong.
I have found out that it is possible for every voter to look up their own ballot result and others, because they are controlled and logged.
That is how bunches of people who are ardent Trump supporters have found out that they have somehow voted for Biden.
They have also found out that long dead people have voted for Democrats.
They have found out their ballots have not been logged and counted.
They have found that they were given sharpies instead of pens to mark the ballot papers, which the machines cannot read and therefore reject their vote.
There have even been Democrat counters coming forward to say that they have seen ballots with no signatures being accepted, ballots appearing in the middle of the night etc.
Not one of these things make it in to the mass media, but there are websites that are collating the data. |
The sharpie thing was debunked wasn’t it? |  |
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