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🇺🇸Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread”🇺🇸 01:18 - Sep 29 with 209135 viewsDr_Parnassus



Who will be watching? First one kicks off in 24 hours time.

The Democrats have pulled Joe back from his campaign trail recently to get him prepared, so hopefully it will be a decent exchange.

Unfortunately they don’t seem to have great confidence as they have spent the last month looking for any dirt they can dig up so Joe can use if he gets stuck.

It’s no coincidence that this vote influencing Facebook algorithm story is being shamelessly and inaccurately made into a race issue on the eve of the debates. So transparent and disingenuous, it’s a shame politics has come to this on this level where black people are being used in this way to score political points. I would be furious if I was them, but it does seem a lot of people are not falling for this one and calling it out for what it is.

People finally seem to be getting wise to this political race baiting which is refreshing to see.

It’s also telling that in the week of the debate they try and paint Trump as a tax evasion offender. I think that’s what they wanted the tax returns to show, they seem to have got annoyed when it turns out his tax returns were fine in accordance to what his companies profits were - but decided to run with it anyway. Any news is good news in their mind as it’s another thing Joe can use when in a tricky spot.

But I hope the discussions remain political and doesn’t turn into some form of gossip peddling reality TV episode.

Although I think there should be some kind of drinking game involved if it does turn that way, how many times Biden completely loses his thread of thought and blurts out “I mean, think about it...” you have to take a shot.

I will be watching with great interest anyway.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 19:17 - Oct 7 with 1381 viewsHighjack

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 18:15 - Oct 7 by Humpty



How about a big open mouth kiss from a seventy year old?
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Yes that’s seriously creepy too. You’re not quite getting the point are you?

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 19:28 - Oct 7 with 1346 viewsGroo

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 14:55 - Oct 7 by Dr_Parnassus

How is that false news? You just confirmed it.

A notoriously creepy man who has been accused of sexual assault, an accusation his running mate says she believes - telling children he would like to see them dance in 4 years time.

That happened didn’t it?

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you guys crack me up. Mind you I'm beginning to think you are perverted and trying ti deflect you own indecent thoughts onto others.

He's a politician, life long politician, brought through in the days when politicians kissed babies. Yes he's awkward with children.

Then again Trump said to a 10 (TEN) year old he'd date her when she's older. Trump was also a visitor to Epsteins Island.

As for the above, see you dance in 4 years was not said in the way you pervs are making out and you know it. He had just watched them dance, with many others at the event and said he hopes to see them dance in 4 years, i.e. in 4 years he's hoping he'll be on the same trail for re-election.

This sort of thing though is typical of modern politics, attack the man, in any dirty underhand way possible, hoping something sticks.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 19:54 - Oct 7 with 1345 viewsHighjack

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 19:28 - Oct 7 by Groo

you guys crack me up. Mind you I'm beginning to think you are perverted and trying ti deflect you own indecent thoughts onto others.

He's a politician, life long politician, brought through in the days when politicians kissed babies. Yes he's awkward with children.

Then again Trump said to a 10 (TEN) year old he'd date her when she's older. Trump was also a visitor to Epsteins Island.

As for the above, see you dance in 4 years was not said in the way you pervs are making out and you know it. He had just watched them dance, with many others at the event and said he hopes to see them dance in 4 years, i.e. in 4 years he's hoping he'll be on the same trail for re-election.

This sort of thing though is typical of modern politics, attack the man, in any dirty underhand way possible, hoping something sticks.


It may have been ok to stroke, sniff and kiss kids in the 1960’s. I don’t know, I wasn’t there. People who were there can probably defend it because they did it themselves. But in the 21st century it is just plain weird.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 20:01 - Oct 7 with 1334 viewsJoe_bradshaw

I wouldn’t want any female members of my family anywhere near either of them.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 20:03 - Oct 7 with 1334 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 19:28 - Oct 7 by Groo

you guys crack me up. Mind you I'm beginning to think you are perverted and trying ti deflect you own indecent thoughts onto others.

He's a politician, life long politician, brought through in the days when politicians kissed babies. Yes he's awkward with children.

Then again Trump said to a 10 (TEN) year old he'd date her when she's older. Trump was also a visitor to Epsteins Island.

As for the above, see you dance in 4 years was not said in the way you pervs are making out and you know it. He had just watched them dance, with many others at the event and said he hopes to see them dance in 4 years, i.e. in 4 years he's hoping he'll be on the same trail for re-election.

This sort of thing though is typical of modern politics, attack the man, in any dirty underhand way possible, hoping something sticks.


Sorry Trump's name does not appear on the Plane's passenger list.
So where is your proof that he visited Epsteins island?
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 20:29 - Oct 7 with 1313 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Oh dear the shit just hit the fan.
Biden is now under a Federal Criminal Investigation on two counts, Ukraine and his involvement in the Counter Intelligence probe.
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 20:39 - Oct 7 with 1284 viewsGroo

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 20:03 - Oct 7 by A_Fans_Dad

Sorry Trump's name does not appear on the Plane's passenger list.
So where is your proof that he visited Epsteins island?


Sorry your right, I mistook the photo of them as being on the island, it was in fact at Trumps Florida golf club.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 20:41 - Oct 7 with 1300 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 20:39 - Oct 7 by Groo

Sorry your right, I mistook the photo of them as being on the island, it was in fact at Trumps Florida golf club.


Yes, I think they were reasonably good friends or associates until Trump realised where it was going with Epstein.
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 20:47 - Oct 7 with 1298 viewsHighjack

Mart and dadsarmy are clearly fans of sniffing kids.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:00 - Oct 7 with 1271 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 19:28 - Oct 7 by Groo

you guys crack me up. Mind you I'm beginning to think you are perverted and trying ti deflect you own indecent thoughts onto others.

He's a politician, life long politician, brought through in the days when politicians kissed babies. Yes he's awkward with children.

Then again Trump said to a 10 (TEN) year old he'd date her when she's older. Trump was also a visitor to Epsteins Island.

As for the above, see you dance in 4 years was not said in the way you pervs are making out and you know it. He had just watched them dance, with many others at the event and said he hopes to see them dance in 4 years, i.e. in 4 years he's hoping he'll be on the same trail for re-election.

This sort of thing though is typical of modern politics, attack the man, in any dirty underhand way possible, hoping something sticks.


Wow, you may think this behaviour is ok with little girls clearly trying to back away, their faces are terrified... but normal people do not.

His Vice President running mate says she believes sexual assault allegations against him. If you are happy letting a man like that grab your daughter and sniff her hair while she struggles and squirms then you go ahead. I can’t think of any other profession where that would be deemed acceptable by people.

Ironic you complain about attacking the man yet you then go on to do exactly that. Ironic also that in your staunch defence of this you would then create fake news regarding Epsteins Island. The Clinton’s however... they loved that place.
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:10 - Oct 7 with 1265 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 18:15 - Oct 7 by Humpty



How about a big open mouth kiss from a seventy year old?
[Post edited 7 Oct 2020 18:16]


Open mouth kiss? What on earth are you watching?

That seems like a normal situation, a President giving a child a kiss on the cheek, child backs away so he puts her down. No issue there.

There is a big difference between that and grabbing a child who is squirming and tightening your grip as you smell their hair. Standing behind a child smelling their hair as they try and edge away with a look of terror on their face. Grabbing women from behind in situations that it really isn’t appropriate or fitting.

On one hand you are comparing a staged photo op. To the other which is a voluntary forcing of that into a situation that isn’t calling for that.

This was possibly one of the worst ones for me. Again, the situation wasn’t calling for it, it was the background, he didn’t take his hands off her, she was clearly incredibly uncomfortable.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:19 - Oct 7 with 1254 viewsDr_Parnassus

Anyway, VP debate today Pence vs Harris.



Two excellent questions there, added to those two I would like him to press her on the fact she encouraged people to donate to a bail fund to get domestic terrorists out of jail for anyone arrested in the riots.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:35 - Oct 7 with 1242 viewsDJack

The survey linked at the bottom is of interest to all. Do not just look at the headline of the survey look at the qustions and the responses Also there are many questions and it breaks down the answers on peoples political affiliation, gender, education, race and many more categories. A snapshot of American thinking.

Here is a snippet of info that I found interesting.

"Voters by 3:1 Say Roe v Wade Should Remain Law of the Land: 81% of voters nationwide are familiar with the 1973 Supreme Court case Roe v Wade, which made abortion legal in America. Of those familiar with the case, 62% say Roe should remain the law of the land. 23% say Roe should be overturned. Among Trump voters today, a plurality, 40%, want Roe to remain the law of the land. Just 37% are receptive to Trump using every opportunity to say he will appoint Supreme Court justices who will overturn Roe. Biden voters by 8:1 do not want Roe overturned."

https://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=5c55fb27-997d-4bec-aa2c-ceb36

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:38 - Oct 7 with 1234 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:35 - Oct 7 by DJack

The survey linked at the bottom is of interest to all. Do not just look at the headline of the survey look at the qustions and the responses Also there are many questions and it breaks down the answers on peoples political affiliation, gender, education, race and many more categories. A snapshot of American thinking.

Here is a snippet of info that I found interesting.

"Voters by 3:1 Say Roe v Wade Should Remain Law of the Land: 81% of voters nationwide are familiar with the 1973 Supreme Court case Roe v Wade, which made abortion legal in America. Of those familiar with the case, 62% say Roe should remain the law of the land. 23% say Roe should be overturned. Among Trump voters today, a plurality, 40%, want Roe to remain the law of the land. Just 37% are receptive to Trump using every opportunity to say he will appoint Supreme Court justices who will overturn Roe. Biden voters by 8:1 do not want Roe overturned."

https://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=5c55fb27-997d-4bec-aa2c-ceb36


Since when has Trump said he will appoint a justice to overturn Roe vs Wade?

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:47 - Oct 7 with 1226 viewsDJack

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:38 - Oct 7 by Dr_Parnassus

Since when has Trump said he will appoint a justice to overturn Roe vs Wade?


I didn't say he has but you might want to read this...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-views-abortion-roe-vs-wade-his-own-words-

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:48 - Oct 7 with 1224 viewsDr_Parnassus

Wade vs Roe is a very complex and hot topic in America. When Roe vs Wade was first passed it was a very different situation. It needs a review because it seems to be a racial issue too.

I heard the other day that more black babies are aborted in New York than born every year. That’s horrifying. People have used Wade vs Roe as contraception as opposed to a medical or financial need to put it into practice.

Planned Parenthood have a lot to answer for there which is an organisation founded on very sinister intentions.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:51 - Oct 7 with 1217 viewsDr_Parnassus

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I didn't say he has but you might want to read this...

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trumps-views-abortion-roe-vs-wade-his-own-words-


You told me to read the piece, that’s what the piece said.

As for Trumps view on Roe vs Wade, I’m fully aware. It’s a view not a million miles away from my own view. But it’s still extremely unlikely it will be overturned.

Complex topic, but killing children really doesn’t sit well with me especially out of convenience. There needs to be tighter restrictions on it, we can’t have more babies being killed than born. It’s a problem.

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:57 - Oct 7 with 1212 viewsDJack

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:48 - Oct 7 by Dr_Parnassus

Wade vs Roe is a very complex and hot topic in America. When Roe vs Wade was first passed it was a very different situation. It needs a review because it seems to be a racial issue too.

I heard the other day that more black babies are aborted in New York than born every year. That’s horrifying. People have used Wade vs Roe as contraception as opposed to a medical or financial need to put it into practice.

Planned Parenthood have a lot to answer for there which is an organisation founded on very sinister intentions.


Yes it is a hot topic...it is a very emotive one but the anti-abortion case was a bit "iffy". As to your heresay I cannot comment. More on Roe below


"Plaintiff in Roe v. Wade U.S. abortion case says she was paid to switch sides

Norma McCorvey, the woman known as “Jane Roe” in the landmark 1973 U.S. Supreme Court Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion, said she was lying when she switched to support the anti-abortion movement, saying she had been paid to do so."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-abortion-jane-roe-idUSKBN22V33D

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:57 - Oct 7 with 1212 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:51 - Oct 7 by Dr_Parnassus

You told me to read the piece, that’s what the piece said.

As for Trumps view on Roe vs Wade, I’m fully aware. It’s a view not a million miles away from my own view. But it’s still extremely unlikely it will be overturned.

Complex topic, but killing children really doesn’t sit well with me especially out of convenience. There needs to be tighter restrictions on it, we can’t have more babies being killed than born. It’s a problem.


Democrats want it extended up until actual brith.
ie murder.
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:59 - Oct 7 with 1209 viewsDJack

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:57 - Oct 7 by A_Fans_Dad

Democrats want it extended up until actual brith.
ie murder.


Do you have anything to back up that ridiculous claim?

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:59 - Oct 7 with 1209 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:57 - Oct 7 by DJack

Yes it is a hot topic...it is a very emotive one but the anti-abortion case was a bit "iffy". As to your heresay I cannot comment. More on Roe below


"Plaintiff in Roe v. Wade U.S. abortion case says she was paid to switch sides

Norma McCorvey, the woman known as “Jane Roe” in the landmark 1973 U.S. Supreme Court Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion, said she was lying when she switched to support the anti-abortion movement, saying she had been paid to do so."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-abortion-jane-roe-idUSKBN22V33D


Which bit of my comment did you think was “here-say”?

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:03 - Oct 7 with 1206 viewsDJack

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:59 - Oct 7 by Dr_Parnassus

Which bit of my comment did you think was “here-say”?


"I heard the other day"

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:07 - Oct 7 with 1201 viewsDr_Parnassus

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:03 - Oct 7 by DJack

"I heard the other day"


It’s a verifiable fact.

http://tneagleforum.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=65521

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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:13 - Oct 7 with 1195 viewsA_Fans_Dad

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 22:19 - Oct 7 by Dr_Parnassus

Anyway, VP debate today Pence vs Harris.



Two excellent questions there, added to those two I would like him to press her on the fact she encouraged people to donate to a bail fund to get domestic terrorists out of jail for anyone arrested in the riots.


You forgot the "Green New Deal" which would bankcrupt the country.
When will the "peaceful protests" end?
Is she sorry for keeping people in prison too long?
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Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:15 - Oct 7 with 1195 viewsDJack

Presidential debate round 1 - “Matchday thread” on 23:07 - Oct 7 by Dr_Parnassus

It’s a verifiable fact.

http://tneagleforum.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=65521


I'm not saying it is wrong but it ain't a verifiable fact.

You've linked to a forum who have a link to an opinion piece behind a paywall in the Wall Street Journal.

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