| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? 13:24 - Sep 30 with 11173 views | kropotkin41 |
What are the chances? After Tuesday night? [Post edited 30 Sep 2018 13:34]
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 18:19 - Sep 30 with 2445 views | paulparker |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 17:57 - Sep 30 by BazzaInTheLoft |
No I don't.
But don't take that as credit to McClaren.
And if we do go down, then it's more the fault of those that appointed McClaren and gave him a squad partly assembled by four different managers.
There is more to it than deciding who goes and who comes in. We are restricted by finances, availibilty, and the attractiveness of the product we're selling.
I share your anger PP and i'll not shed a tear if he goes, I just don't think we'll be better off, even though the last three games have been dog shit. [Post edited 30 Sep 2018 18:02]
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If we go down the blame goes on TF and his pals , without doubt they should shoulder the brunt of it , but I’m struggling to think of a worse team than us than Bolton , McLaren is yesterday’s man and he was when he got the job , he has to go and it’s not just about staying up it’s about the next 2 or 3 years,it’s about developing players and making them sellable, none of them have progressed under him he is playing 4-4-2 with the best number 10 in the league as a right winger, he has frozen out manning and smyth
Hughes never fitted here he thought he was bigger than us and he also upset the dressing room I get the same impression with McLaren , this is not a good fit at all |  |
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That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 18:49 - Sep 30 with 2393 views | whittocksRs |
I would take Warnock back in a heartbeat. He'd make us competitive with the squad we already have. McClaren can't because he isn't up to the job. I'm not one for knee-jerk reactions but there was little reason for him to get the job in the first place and he hasn't shown one reason why we should keep him since taking over. |  | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 19:12 - Sep 30 with 2349 views | PunteR |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 18:49 - Sep 30 by whittocksRs |
I would take Warnock back in a heartbeat. He'd make us competitive with the squad we already have. McClaren can't because he isn't up to the job. I'm not one for knee-jerk reactions but there was little reason for him to get the job in the first place and he hasn't shown one reason why we should keep him since taking over. |
Warnock will make us more competitive im sure. Not sure he will buy into a long term project of bringing youth through and signing lower league players on the cheap . He'll want results and a playoff push.
Whats not to like.? |  |
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 19:25 - Sep 30 with 2301 views | whittocksRs |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 19:12 - Sep 30 by PunteR |
Warnock will make us more competitive im sure. Not sure he will buy into a long term project of bringing youth through and signing lower league players on the cheap . He'll want results and a playoff push.
Whats not to like.? |
Probably true on the youth front, which is a shame. But the threat of relegation is real and Warnock would put us up the other end of the table. | | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 20:29 - Sep 30 with 2244 views | TopCat34 |
Was quite optimistic when we appointed Steve Mc (under the impression that he would be a better coach for the youngsters). Got to say, feel let down by the club that we've so quickly abandoned this strategy.
Haven't properly wanted out a manager out since Redknapp but finding it increasingly difficult to get behind this man and his tactics.
Our team for the Birmingham game towards the end of the season really outlines it for me (Lumley,Furlong, Kakay, Manning, Chair, Osayi-Samuel all in the starting XI) Admittedly it was end of season and Ollie chopped and changed a lot, but Brum had something to play for in that and we won comfortably. Lumley aside, all of those players have been bombed out and you could argue we've actually got worse. [Post edited 30 Sep 2018 20:31]
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 20:44 - Sep 30 with 2214 views | daveB |
Lack of options to replace him at the moment, they'll give him at least another month. Personally would love Jackett in as manager, think he is ideal for us but will cost us to get him from Portsmouth and sack McClaren and his 101 coaches
The day Warnock leaves Cardiff expect us to be making a change if we haven't already |  | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 20:44 - Sep 30 with 2214 views | Northernr |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 19:12 - Sep 30 by PunteR |
Warnock will make us more competitive im sure. Not sure he will buy into a long term project of bringing youth through and signing lower league players on the cheap . He'll want results and a playoff push.
Whats not to like.? |
McClaren's been allowed to abandon that anyway. |  | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 21:23 - Sep 30 with 2151 views | essextaxiboy |
Warnock is almost 70 , he can only be a short term fix. We will.be going round this block again in a couple of seasons ... |  | | |
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 21:27 - Sep 30 with 2150 views | daveB |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 21:23 - Sep 30 by essextaxiboy |
Warnock is almost 70 , he can only be a short term fix. We will.be going round this block again in a couple of seasons ... |
We could appoint Pep Guardiola and we'd still be going through a change again in a few years. Rare for a manager to last more than 18 months these days | | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 21:35 - Sep 30 with 2134 views | PunteR |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 21:27 - Sep 30 by daveB |
We could appoint Pep Guardiola and we'd still be going through a change again in a few years. Rare for a manager to last more than 18 months these days |
Hence the DoF role. | |
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 23:27 - Sep 30 with 2035 views | NW5Hoop |
Warnock is never coming here. Not in a million years. Nothing to do with Less/Hoos/Ramsey, but because he likes buying players and goes where they let him buy players, except when it's been shortterm firefighting, as with Rotherham.
Last time he was here, that first summer he bought Kenny, Orr, Hill, Derry, Taarabt, Smith, Hulse, Vaagen Moen, and that's just off the top of my head. Bet there are more I've forgotten. As if we'd let him buy one player like that now! | | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 09:57 - Oct 1 with 1896 views | traininvain |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 23:27 - Sep 30 by NW5Hoop |
Warnock is never coming here. Not in a million years. Nothing to do with Less/Hoos/Ramsey, but because he likes buying players and goes where they let him buy players, except when it's been shortterm firefighting, as with Rotherham.
Last time he was here, that first summer he bought Kenny, Orr, Hill, Derry, Taarabt, Smith, Hulse, Vaagen Moen, and that's just off the top of my head. Bet there are more I've forgotten. As if we'd let him buy one player like that now! |
Good point. That’s another factor many have ignored, we have a transfer embargo this January which makes us an even less attractive proposition for a potential manager. What a mess. |  | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 10:17 - Oct 1 with 1872 views | francisbowles |
If he has 'lost the dressing room' then it will be extremely difficult for him to recover it. We are likely to lose anytime we go behind and we will need a huge change of luck to get a result.
Any more performances as described in Clive's report and he could be gone very soon | | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 10:34 - Oct 1 with 1840 views | Antti_Heinola |
Personally, I am about 95% sure had we lost to Wigan, McClaren was gone.
He bought himself a bit of time, but a loss, particularly if we don't score, on Tue will have him on very thin ice, and a further loss on Sat against Lampard's Derby will, I think, see him fired.
All the time he's losing, Les's position gets stronger. Les would've wanted the players Penrice identified. We signed one single player this summer, because McClaren hung his hat on three loans (before someone calls them Prem players again, they're not. One was not needed by a Champ club, another completed 2 Prem games in the whole of last season and the third didn't play more than 10 Prem minutes in a game for the whole of last season). If that fails, and at the moment it is, AB is likely to feel that Les's preferred direction was wrongly ignored and McClaren will be off.
Lack of alternatives is certainly a problem, especially with any new man having no Jan transfer window (unless Eze or Freeman are sold then). But I'm not sure that'll save him. |  |
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 11:09 - Oct 1 with 1791 views | DavieQPR |
Should get a few more games to see if he can admit and learn from his mistakes. Swansea was just terrible on and off the pitch and the subs were wrong and too late anyway. |  | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 11:29 - Oct 1 with 1748 views | davman |
I can't stand the bloke, but was hopeful that this "develop the youngsters" and "more consistent approach" would help. He has done neither, which is why this feels so hopeless at the moment. I am really peed off that no-one is holding him to account. Surely his brief was to continue to steady the ship, play and develop the kids IN THEIR RIGHT positions and bring in lower league players that we can sell on for a profit? If that is the case, he has not done what he said he would and that, in itself should be cause to get rid.
I am livid that the club has let him go this way.
...but I am also not happy with the players. They don't like the manager, great, but what about fighting TOGETHER for this club? Who on the playing staff would put everything in for QPR out there on the pitch? They are starting to feel like a bunch waiting for their next contract away from this "hell hole". I remain hopeful that there will soon be a full and frank discussion behind the scenes (if there hasn't been already) and that management and players together agree what is best for the club, swallow it up and turn this shit around.
Unfortunately, I can only see this going one way...
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 12:04 - Oct 1 with 1707 views | bob566 |
I really don't know whether to throw my backing behind mcclaren or not. A bit of me is saying another manager equals another batch of loan signings and another new squad. Can't we just work with what we have and try and fix it.
Then what do the fans and owners want. You want security of championship football. Then look no further than mick McCarthy but the football won't be entertaining. | | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 12:11 - Oct 1 with 1682 views | Rs_Holy |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 12:04 - Oct 1 by bob566 |
I really don't know whether to throw my backing behind mcclaren or not. A bit of me is saying another manager equals another batch of loan signings and another new squad. Can't we just work with what we have and try and fix it.
Then what do the fans and owners want. You want security of championship football. Then look no further than mick McCarthy but the football won't be entertaining. |
No shots in 3 matches make a Big Mick team look like Barca!
edit - If Big Mick stuck to the plan I'd have him as manager immediately.
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 12:25 - Oct 1 with 1645 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 10:34 - Oct 1 by Antti_Heinola |
Personally, I am about 95% sure had we lost to Wigan, McClaren was gone.
He bought himself a bit of time, but a loss, particularly if we don't score, on Tue will have him on very thin ice, and a further loss on Sat against Lampard's Derby will, I think, see him fired.
All the time he's losing, Les's position gets stronger. Les would've wanted the players Penrice identified. We signed one single player this summer, because McClaren hung his hat on three loans (before someone calls them Prem players again, they're not. One was not needed by a Champ club, another completed 2 Prem games in the whole of last season and the third didn't play more than 10 Prem minutes in a game for the whole of last season). If that fails, and at the moment it is, AB is likely to feel that Les's preferred direction was wrongly ignored and McClaren will be off.
Lack of alternatives is certainly a problem, especially with any new man having no Jan transfer window (unless Eze or Freeman are sold then). But I'm not sure that'll save him. |
Les's position gets stronger.
Good. Disappointing that it takes defeats to undo what shouldn't have happened at all.
Les would've wanted the players Penrice identified.
He was right.
If that fails, and at the moment it is, AB is likely to feel that Les's preferred direction was wrongly ignored
Correctly, so Good
and McClaren will be off.
Not so good but probably unavoidable and only himself to blame.
TBH Ramsey as caretaker to end of season looks about the only option financially. We could do worse, hopefully people will STFU about stupid hats and give him some time, and he will have learnt a bit. | | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 12:50 - Oct 1 with 1592 views | Dorse |
For what it's worth (i.e. fcuk all divided by six), I never really subscribed to the doctrine of the patented QPR Whirly Wheel Of Management. From the outside, it looks as though McLaren has committed the same sin as Hughes: the creation of a two-tier squad. Those that are 'In' and everyone else who may as well not bother turning up. |  |
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 12:57 - Oct 1 with 1572 views | traininvain |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 12:25 - Oct 1 by CiderwithRsie |
Les's position gets stronger.
Good. Disappointing that it takes defeats to undo what shouldn't have happened at all.
Les would've wanted the players Penrice identified.
He was right.
If that fails, and at the moment it is, AB is likely to feel that Les's preferred direction was wrongly ignored
Correctly, so Good
and McClaren will be off.
Not so good but probably unavoidable and only himself to blame.
TBH Ramsey as caretaker to end of season looks about the only option financially. We could do worse, hopefully people will STFU about stupid hats and give him some time, and he will have learnt a bit. |
I wouldn't be surprised if Ramsey doesn't want the manager's job. Let's not forget that he was treated disgracefully by a section of our supporters last time round. | | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 13:05 - Oct 1 with 1535 views | Metallica_Hoop |
I never call for the manager to be sacked but once while watching a Paul Hart draw I came very close.
I like Mclaren on showing about the same as Hart.
If we do replace him I want someone who will do what Holloway was doing. |  |
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 14:00 - Oct 1 with 1439 views | kropotkin41 |
If we get relegated with McClaren at least we will have done football at large a service..... surely he'd never get another job as manager anywhere. It's not much of a consolation. | |
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| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 14:16 - Oct 1 with 1405 views | Rs_Holy |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 14:00 - Oct 1 by kropotkin41 |
If we get relegated with McClaren at least we will have done football at large a service..... surely he'd never get another job as manager anywhere. It's not much of a consolation. |
we all thought the same about Hughes-less! | | | |
| Do we really expect Steve to get the bullet? on 14:40 - Oct 1 with 1360 views | simmo |
If he loses against Reading and Derby in the manner we lost our last 3 games, he can't last. We're not even competing at the moment and you can't as a board fund 2 expensive loan signings to reinforce the attack and live with a manager that can't organise a team to have more than 1 shot a game, even when playing at home.
Let's hope Schteve understands this too, despite his nonsense post-match interviews to the contrary, and moves back to the way we played against Millwall. |  |
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