| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:44 - Jun 26 with 1393 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:33 - Jun 26 by Highjack |
Is braveheart racist against English people? The English are right evil bastards in that. |
That’s a documentary too by Lord B’s criteria. |  |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:45 - Jun 26 with 1393 views | jackal |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:24 - Jun 26 by Neath_Jack |
The bastards.
It’s my second favourite film mun. They’ll never make me give my DVD up of it anyway 🖕ðŸ»ðŸ–•ðŸ» |
I have to ask.
What's your favourite? |  | | |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:53 - Jun 26 with 1379 views | Highjack |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:44 - Jun 26 by exiledclaseboy |
That’s a documentary too by Lord B’s criteria. |
Presented by doctor David starkey I believe. |  |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:05 - Jun 26 with 1361 views | Lord_Bony |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:33 - Jun 26 by Highjack |
Is braveheart racist against English people? The English are right evil bastards in that. |
Yes they are.
It's just not fair on the English people who are generally a peaceful people.
This film should be banned too. |  |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:06 - Jun 26 with 1344 views | Neath_Jack |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:45 - Jun 26 by jackal |
I have to ask.
What's your favourite? |
I'd love to come up with some trendy, arty farty classic, but I can't.
Twin Town. |  |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:08 - Jun 26 with 1337 views | Flashberryjack |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:05 - Jun 26 by Lord_Bony |
Yes they are.
It's just not fair on the English people who are generally a peaceful people.
This film should be banned too. |
Put the shovel down Bony. |  |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:10 - Jun 26 with 1335 views | Shaky |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 19:55 - Jun 26 by theloneranger |
Loh
I thought the word Racist was first used in 1902 by Col. Richard Henry Pratt |
What difference does it make where the word comes from?
The concept itself dates back at least as far as Plato. [Post edited 26 Jun 2018 21:12]
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:13 - Jun 26 with 1320 views | Lord_Bony |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:08 - Jun 26 by Flashberryjack |
Put the shovel down Bony. |
I was only jokin.  | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:13 - Jun 26 with 1318 views | Highjack |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:10 - Jun 26 by Shaky |
What difference does it make where the word comes from?
The concept itself dates back at least as far as Plato. [Post edited 26 Jun 2018 21:12]
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My favourite cartoon dog. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:28 - Jun 26 with 1291 views | Wingstandwood |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:13 - Jun 26 by Highjack |
My favourite cartoon dog. |
Here we go again!
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:41 - Jun 26 with 1262 views | airedale |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 10:24 - Jun 26 by Lord_Bony |
True.
Next we should ban Christmas. |
Bannit!
Bah. |  | | |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:45 - Jun 26 with 1253 views | exiledclaseboy |
So how about we agree that the film isn’t racist in and of itself, it is after all simply a fictionalised account of some historical events. But the events upon which the film is based were absolutely based on the belief that the white race was superior to those with a darker skin hue, be they African or Asian. That was after all at the heart of the UK’s empire building. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:49 - Jun 26 with 1237 views | Dr_Winston |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:45 - Jun 26 by exiledclaseboy |
So how about we agree that the film isn’t racist in and of itself, it is after all simply a fictionalised account of some historical events. But the events upon which the film is based were absolutely based on the belief that the white race was superior to those with a darker skin hue, be they African or Asian. That was after all at the heart of the UK’s empire building. |
Seems fair. |  |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:50 - Jun 26 with 1234 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:49 - Jun 26 by Dr_Winston |
Seems fair. |
That’ll never catch on. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:52 - Jun 26 with 1232 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 20:00 - Jun 26 by Jonathans_coat |
Okay....... I’ve just stumbled into this shitstorm, so here it goes:-
1. It is not a documentary. It is a work of fiction, based on actual historical events. It is a pretty accurate depiction, but that still doesn’t make it a documentary.
2. There seems to be arguements over which side was looking to kill the other. Both we’re trying kill the other! It was a BATTLE in a WAR.
3. There were acts of immense bravery and sacrifice on both side (again, battle, war)
4. There were acts of immense violence and savagery on both sides (you get the picture)
5. Is the film racist? - (opinion warning) - No. as previously stated it is a fairly accurate depiction of historical events, so if it’s racist, it’s only because the history is racist. Lots of Germans die in Kelly’s Heroes but nobody calls that racist.
6. Should we care - No. it’s not getting banned is it? Just some nonsense right wing click bait from Facebook designed to further foster and entrench their hideous form of racial nationalism.
I await the insults and accusations of hypocrisy/self righteousness/arrogance/ignorance/being a snowflake/being a racist/being boring...........ect ad absurdum. |
Number six wins the thread and maybe even the Internet. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:58 - Jun 26 with 1214 views | Dr_Winston |
Funny thing is the only people who really should be offended are the descendants of Henry Hook, who in reality was a model soldier, but was turned into a dodgy bastard in the film for no real reason.
His daughters walked out of the Premiere apparently. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:59 - Jun 26 with 1206 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:58 - Jun 26 by Dr_Winston |
Funny thing is the only people who really should be offended are the descendants of Henry Hook, who in reality was a model soldier, but was turned into a dodgy bastard in the film for no real reason.
His daughters walked out of the Premiere apparently. |
Not to mention whoever Michael Caine played cos he’s fecking awful in that film. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:05 - Jun 26 with 1196 views | Dr_Winston |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:59 - Jun 26 by exiledclaseboy |
Not to mention whoever Michael Caine played cos he’s fecking awful in that film. |
Gonville Bromhead was deaf as a post and apparently a terrible solider.
Old Maurice was an upgrade. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:09 - Jun 26 with 1191 views | WarwickHunt |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:05 - Jun 26 by Dr_Winston |
Gonville Bromhead was deaf as a post and apparently a terrible solider.
Old Maurice was an upgrade. |
He was a character in The Goon Show, shirley? |  | | |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:12 - Jun 26 with 1180 views | Dr_Winston |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:09 - Jun 26 by WarwickHunt |
He was a character in The Goon Show, shirley? |
Nope.
Sorry. Zulu is my absolute favourite film of all time and I get terribly geeky about it. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:12 - Jun 26 with 1179 views | Jonathans_coat |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:45 - Jun 26 by exiledclaseboy |
So how about we agree that the film isn’t racist in and of itself, it is after all simply a fictionalised account of some historical events. But the events upon which the film is based were absolutely based on the belief that the white race was superior to those with a darker skin hue, be they African or Asian. That was after all at the heart of the UK’s empire building. |
Indeed. Rudyard Kipling dubbed it “The White Mans Burden” (note). The Americans referred to it as “Manifest Destiny”. Whatever you call it, it’s basically the belief in ones racial superiority over others, and the inherent duty to civilise the inferior. It’s been the major driver of geopolitics for millennia and still is to a large degree.
(Note) As well as being the famous Kipling poem, “The White Man’s Burden” is also the name of an excellent book about international development by William Easterly for those interested in such things. |  | | |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:14 - Jun 26 with 1169 views | WarwickHunt |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:12 - Jun 26 by Dr_Winston |
Nope.
Sorry. Zulu is my absolute favourite film of all time and I get terribly geeky about it. |
OK - name the extras.  | | | |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:14 - Jun 26 with 1168 views | moonie |
I grew up in fear of Ivor Emanuel |  | | |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:14 - Jun 26 with 1168 views | Highjack |
| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 21:45 - Jun 26 by exiledclaseboy |
So how about we agree that the film isn’t racist in and of itself, it is after all simply a fictionalised account of some historical events. But the events upon which the film is based were absolutely based on the belief that the white race was superior to those with a darker skin hue, be they African or Asian. That was after all at the heart of the UK’s empire building. |
In the interest of historical accuracy there were plenty of white people in white countries we’ve been knocking the shit into for centuries too. | |
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| Calls to axe 'racist' Zulu film on 22:17 - Jun 26 with 1157 views | moonie |
Guilt in spades.
It's what this is about.
Pure and simple
Plenty like Di Abbott wanting Britain to compensate financially countries Britain " robbed"
Di s been quiet of late | | | |
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