| 70m investment in the town centre 08:08 - Apr 10 with 10130 views | Nigeriamark |
Just announced on BBC news. M&S and Next signed up. Design looks OK ( can't be worse than the black box in fairness). Will be interesting if they try to put residences amongst the stores which most successful centres have. Would it work in Rochdale? Would you live there? |  | | |  |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 18:51 - Apr 10 with 2188 views | ste1 |
Beirut is actually quite nice these days. Visited a friend who works there and had a good time. Lots of hummus. |  |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 19:10 - Apr 10 with 2163 views | nordenblue |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 18:51 - Apr 10 by ste1 |
Beirut is actually quite nice these days. Visited a friend who works there and had a good time. Lots of hummus. |
That might be more accurate than you think as a comparison,there was a mass brawl/riot last night and apparently it's continuing again as we speak tonight in Rochdale,not that the news will broadcast it as it's reportedly many people recently dumped on the town....allegedly |  | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 19:27 - Apr 10 with 2138 views | mightydale |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 19:10 - Apr 10 by nordenblue |
That might be more accurate than you think as a comparison,there was a mass brawl/riot last night and apparently it's continuing again as we speak tonight in Rochdale,not that the news will broadcast it as it's reportedly many people recently dumped on the town....allegedly |
Right in the heart of Muslim area, shell we guess what's it's all about !!! |  |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 19:46 - Apr 10 with 2109 views | nordenblue |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 19:27 - Apr 10 by mightydale |
Right in the heart of Muslim area, shell we guess what's it's all about !!! |
I do hope you're not being racist..... apparently involving 10s of African descent..... | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:15 - Apr 10 with 2056 views | isitme |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 19:46 - Apr 10 by nordenblue |
I do hope you're not being racist..... apparently involving 10s of African descent..... |
If it is the Somalians then they are Muslims as well. Also they have not been dumped Rochdale council has taken them. There is a reason that Rochdale has the highest, per capita number of asylum seekers in the country, which is the council wants the money that they bring. In some ways you have to feel sorry for them, but for many of them their way of life is incompatible with what most in society would deem as being acceptable.
Look at the civil wars going on throughout the world today and they are virtually all Muslims killing other Muslims.
If I was to hazard a guess I would suspect the fighting is drug related. [Post edited 10 Apr 2017 20:19]
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:26 - Apr 10 with 2014 views | nordenblue |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:15 - Apr 10 by isitme |
If it is the Somalians then they are Muslims as well. Also they have not been dumped Rochdale council has taken them. There is a reason that Rochdale has the highest, per capita number of asylum seekers in the country, which is the council wants the money that they bring. In some ways you have to feel sorry for them, but for many of them their way of life is incompatible with what most in society would deem as being acceptable.
Look at the civil wars going on throughout the world today and they are virtually all Muslims killing other Muslims.
If I was to hazard a guess I would suspect the fighting is drug related. [Post edited 10 Apr 2017 20:19]
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As much as the councils get "rewarded" for housing these many people,most are unemployable too which again brings it's on strains within the borough,not to mention the extra pressure on health services while they're already at breaking point.... | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:33 - Apr 10 with 1986 views | isitme |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:26 - Apr 10 by nordenblue |
As much as the councils get "rewarded" for housing these many people,most are unemployable too which again brings it's on strains within the borough,not to mention the extra pressure on health services while they're already at breaking point.... |
Absolutely.
I agree with you entirely. It is not worth the money for the associated problems that they bring. Also for the asylum seekers living in rochdale is not really helpful for them. If only there were relatively wealthy countries nearer to their homeland which have similar cultures who would provide a home for their fellow Muslims? | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:44 - Apr 10 with 1953 views | 49thseason |
When this town centre redevelopment started, we were told it was going to be £500m. Nothing happened and then we were told it was going to be £250m (there is even a sign on Edinburgh Way to that effect). Now it's £70m.
Anyone know where the Council Unicorn is kept these days? Because I bet we get to see it before we see a new M&S, Next and the rest. |  | | |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:54 - Apr 10 with 1925 views | Nerazzurri |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:44 - Apr 10 by 49thseason |
When this town centre redevelopment started, we were told it was going to be £500m. Nothing happened and then we were told it was going to be £250m (there is even a sign on Edinburgh Way to that effect). Now it's £70m.
Anyone know where the Council Unicorn is kept these days? Because I bet we get to see it before we see a new M&S, Next and the rest. |
The retail/leisure development is 70m. The transport interchange, Metrolink, Number One Riverside, River Roch reopening etc are all part of the wider 250m redevelopment. |  |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 21:14 - Apr 10 with 1879 views | mingthemerciless |
Headline in my paper today -
" Most Refugees Sent To Poorest Parts Of the U.K."
One or two facts-
57% of asylum seekers live in the poorest third of the country. 10%of asylum seekers live in the richest third.
The North West houses 9,491 asylum seekers, 16 times the number housed by local authorities in the South East , 580.
Ten local authorities are responsible for supporting more than 1/3 of all asylum seekers in Britain 35.5%. Six of these - Manchester, Bolton, Rochdale, Nottingham, Leicester, Swansea have a median income that places them in the poorest 25% of the country.
The analysis also found that asylum seekers are sent overwhelmingly to areas with Labour led councils.
On average local authorities with Labour led councils house 11.6 asylum seekers per 10,000 population, whereas local authorities led by Conservatives have just 0.7 asylum seekers per 10,000.
There are 174 local authorities - or 45% of the total- that do not house any asylum seekers. 69% of all local authorities house fewer than 10 asylum seekers.
Numbers living in Labour led councils - 34,936.
Numbers living in Conservative led councils - 1,680.
Rochdale is home to 1,061 asylum seekers, the seventh largest in the country.
Windsor and Maidenhead, the PM's constituency is home to 4 asylum seekers.
Of course we're all in this together - Saint Teresa said so. [Post edited 10 Apr 2017 21:22]
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 21:21 - Apr 10 with 1856 views | isitme |
Obviously they will be sent to areas where housing in cheaper. Tax payers are paying for their up keep. It would cost a lot more in rent to house them in the Tory heartlands of the South East.
This article below shows the scale of the costs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34567209
Bare in mind that 'child migrants' are supported by the government up to the age of 25. | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 21:24 - Apr 10 with 1845 views | mingthemerciless |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 21:21 - Apr 10 by isitme |
Obviously they will be sent to areas where housing in cheaper. Tax payers are paying for their up keep. It would cost a lot more in rent to house them in the Tory heartlands of the South East.
This article below shows the scale of the costs.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34567209
Bare in mind that 'child migrants' are supported by the government up to the age of 25. |
That's all very well but until the burden is shared more equally towns like Rochdale will just continue in the current downward spiral. | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 22:12 - Apr 10 with 1750 views | 49thseason |
"Rochdale is home to 1,061 asylum seekers, the seventh largest in the country"
The term "Asylum Seeker" only refers to the main applicant, not the rest of the family. The number of actual asylum seekers is much higher when you count all the dependants. | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 22:23 - Apr 10 with 1723 views | BigDaveMyCock |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 15:29 - Apr 10 by NogintheNog |
We recently took my sister-in -law to town on a beautiful saturday afternoon. She had never been to Rochdale before and judging off various media reports she had seen/read it is fair to say her expectations were somewhat low.
We took her down the Esplanade, had coffee in the town hall, walked over past Gracies` statue and stood on the new bridge viewing the river.
To say she was pleasantly surprized that we do not live in some urban slum populated by scrotes and crackheads would be putting it mildly.
If we continually portray our town negativly how will we ever change outsiders view of our town.
As an aside, I deliver online shopping through-out Greater Manchester/Lancashire and belive me there are many places that make Rochdale look like Nirvana. |
Not a helpful comparison to be honest. Nirvana were very scruffy and the one who shot himself was definitely on smack. | |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 23:40 - Apr 10 with 1642 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 20:26 - Apr 10 by nordenblue |
As much as the councils get "rewarded" for housing these many people,most are unemployable too which again brings it's on strains within the borough,not to mention the extra pressure on health services while they're already at breaking point.... |
Another great decision by RMBC........get the money,sod the consequences,pay ourselves well before we get ousted and we'll be gone "tara suckers"
M&S will be out of their tree to stay here, get the grants for a few years and sod off. | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 23:55 - Apr 10 with 1630 views | D_Alien |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 23:40 - Apr 10 by Yorkshire_Dale |
Another great decision by RMBC........get the money,sod the consequences,pay ourselves well before we get ousted and we'll be gone "tara suckers"
M&S will be out of their tree to stay here, get the grants for a few years and sod off. |
They must be out of their tree then, having had a branch on Yorkshire St for decades |  |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 00:32 - Apr 11 with 1611 views | CanaDale |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 11:14 - Apr 10 by TVOS1907 |
At least they are trying.
if everyone adopted that sort of attitude, we might as well all give up. |
Exactly, that seems to be the attitude in Rochdale, why bother. It is better late than never, some people find negativity everywhere, lets just see how it turns out. [Post edited 11 Apr 2017 0:36]
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 06:36 - Apr 11 with 1548 views | 1mark1 |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 23:40 - Apr 10 by Yorkshire_Dale |
Another great decision by RMBC........get the money,sod the consequences,pay ourselves well before we get ousted and we'll be gone "tara suckers"
M&S will be out of their tree to stay here, get the grants for a few years and sod off. |
Actually RMBC like most local authorities are told to take in asylum takers, all depends on the availability of low cost suitable accommodation. Rochdale have a number of hard to let premises, on places like Freehold and Failinge flats for example. If RBH had a lot of empty properties, they would lose more rental income.
Also asylum seekers not allowed to seek work. |  |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 07:45 - Apr 11 with 1506 views | nordenblue |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 06:36 - Apr 11 by 1mark1 |
Actually RMBC like most local authorities are told to take in asylum takers, all depends on the availability of low cost suitable accommodation. Rochdale have a number of hard to let premises, on places like Freehold and Failinge flats for example. If RBH had a lot of empty properties, they would lose more rental income.
Also asylum seekers not allowed to seek work. |
So let's house hundreds of unemployable people who can't bring anything into the area but are a massive drain,that seems logical as long as there's less ""empty"" houses!!
I'd take a wild guess that the amount they lose on potential empty properties is a fraction of the cost it's costing to house them too in the wider scheme......not that the council ever think of the bigger picture mind | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 07:48 - Apr 11 with 1500 views | nordenblue |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 00:32 - Apr 11 by CanaDale |
Exactly, that seems to be the attitude in Rochdale, why bother. It is better late than never, some people find negativity everywhere, lets just see how it turns out. [Post edited 11 Apr 2017 0:36]
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If you assume reality as negativity I'm guilty as charged..... | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 08:29 - Apr 11 with 1456 views | mingthemerciless |
I find the whole situation a disgrace. The Government expects places like Rochdale to bear the massive burden of an unreasonably large number of asylum seekers yet at the same time they are dramatically cutting the amount of grant money we are given to deal with the situation.
Put the blame where it should be - this Government. | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 11:01 - Apr 11 with 1363 views | tony_roch975 |
I’m with the give it a chance view. There are lots of strengths about Rochdale (people and places); tis sad to read so many born & bred here feel so disillusioned with their home town. I’m an incomer — only chosen to live here (45 years). Also agree the unfairness is less about bad Council decisions and more about Government ‘dumping’ problems on northern towns. Don’t think that’s by chance either - it's the result of a deliberate policy over decades of letting the bankers run riot, destroying manufacturing, neutering the unions, stagnant wages, zero hours contracts, over-priced housing — a vicious cycle of poverty and inequality. Some of those 'no-hopers' & ‘unemployable’ others mentioned will be from the estimated 8000 ex- Armed Forces personnel who slept on the streets of our country last night. | |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 11:02 - Apr 11 with 1363 views | D_Alien |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 08:29 - Apr 11 by mingthemerciless |
I find the whole situation a disgrace. The Government expects places like Rochdale to bear the massive burden of an unreasonably large number of asylum seekers yet at the same time they are dramatically cutting the amount of grant money we are given to deal with the situation.
Put the blame where it should be - this Government. |
Ah, that'd be the Labour government of 1997/2010 you're referring to, that opened the floodgates on unlimited immigration in the vain hope it'd bring more votes from the grateful migrants, and tried to paint anyone who objected as racist
That worked out well | |
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| 70m investment in the town centre on 11:32 - Apr 11 with 1326 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 23:55 - Apr 10 by D_Alien |
They must be out of their tree then, having had a branch on Yorkshire St for decades |
Indeed...that's why I said to "stay" here.........can't be one of their best performers. | | | |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 12:01 - Apr 11 with 1296 views | mingthemerciless |
| 70m investment in the town centre on 11:02 - Apr 11 by D_Alien |
Ah, that'd be the Labour government of 1997/2010 you're referring to, that opened the floodgates on unlimited immigration in the vain hope it'd bring more votes from the grateful migrants, and tried to paint anyone who objected as racist
That worked out well |
How long do this lot have to be in power before it becomes their responsibility ? It's 2017 now. | | | |
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