| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread 21:41 - Mar 20 with 153571 views | 442Dale |
We have 87 days for people to get their £50 deposits in to determine the price of the 2017/18 Season Tickets.
Average amount of daily sales required by 21st June to hit the targets:
2000 (£250): 23
2500 (£200): 29
3000 (£150): 35
4000 (£110): 46
Keeping a track of this really helped ramp up the interest when Hartlepool fans did it, so hopefully it'll have a similar effect. Debate the numbers here over the next week, then we can add the figures once sales commence. |  |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 13:45 - Apr 25 with 4630 views | D_Alien |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 13:27 - Apr 25 by TVOS1907 |
I think you need to factor in the possibility that people have been paying for bury and Oldham away in recent weeks and are perhaps waiting for their next pay day before putting down a deposit. |
Plus the possibility of forking out for home & away fixtures next week... and beyond...
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 14:28 - Apr 25 with 4555 views | DaleiLama |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 13:45 - Apr 25 by D_Alien |
Plus the possibility of forking out for home & away fixtures next week... and beyond...
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If ~1850 got a ST+ 1/2 ST this season and the price is capped at £250 next, you would think all 1850 would be back? The price/game won't be much more in the worst case (£250 for 23 games vs £100 for 11) and threatens to be considerably cheaper than the 1/2 ST offer.
Tbf, I also remember a few posters also saying they wanted to change seats so will wait past the deadline.
It's still probably less than a 50% take-up so far if you factor in the "new" deposits from first-timers. |  |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 14:40 - Apr 25 with 4537 views | D_Alien |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 14:28 - Apr 25 by DaleiLama |
If ~1850 got a ST+ 1/2 ST this season and the price is capped at £250 next, you would think all 1850 would be back? The price/game won't be much more in the worst case (£250 for 23 games vs £100 for 11) and threatens to be considerably cheaper than the 1/2 ST offer.
Tbf, I also remember a few posters also saying they wanted to change seats so will wait past the deadline.
It's still probably less than a 50% take-up so far if you factor in the "new" deposits from first-timers. |
Anyone wanting to change their existing ST seat shouldn't wait past the deadline, since they'd risk someone nabbing their new preference. I don't think there's anything to stop existing ST holders stating a new seat preference BEFORE the deadline?
But I agree, it'd be strange if all existing ST/half-ST holders didn't renew except for reasons beyond football, which, added to new punters who've already signed up would easily take the numbers over 2000 and bring the 2500 @£200 target into sight | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 15:02 - Apr 25 with 4493 views | DaleiLama |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 14:40 - Apr 25 by D_Alien |
Anyone wanting to change their existing ST seat shouldn't wait past the deadline, since they'd risk someone nabbing their new preference. I don't think there's anything to stop existing ST holders stating a new seat preference BEFORE the deadline?
But I agree, it'd be strange if all existing ST/half-ST holders didn't renew except for reasons beyond football, which, added to new punters who've already signed up would easily take the numbers over 2000 and bring the 2500 @£200 target into sight |
If memory serves (it usually doesn't these days) the logic was that if current ST holders didn't renew either on time or at all, their seats would be available after the deadline passed and so a better option might be available? If you are on-line or in the queue first thing after the deadline, you should have a pretty fair choice of seats. Anyway, I may have got hold of the wrong end of the stick but that's how I remembered it. | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 15:35 - Apr 25 with 4447 views | Fred_Talbot |
Season ticket sorted online
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:37 - Apr 25 with 4355 views | D_Alien |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 15:02 - Apr 25 by DaleiLama |
If memory serves (it usually doesn't these days) the logic was that if current ST holders didn't renew either on time or at all, their seats would be available after the deadline passed and so a better option might be available? If you are on-line or in the queue first thing after the deadline, you should have a pretty fair choice of seats. Anyway, I may have got hold of the wrong end of the stick but that's how I remembered it. |
I could also be suffering an ever-more-frequent memory failure but isn't it just that ST holders seats are retained until the deadline, but there's nothing stopping anyone from booking another available seat, and that'd include ST holders?
Edit: ah, unless you mean an ST holder wants to book a current ST seat which might become available after the deadline? The number of instances where that might occur would be in the tens, not the hundreds though? [Post edited 25 Apr 2017 16:41]
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 17:17 - Apr 25 with 4270 views | ColDale |
1000 sold!!! |  | | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 17:55 - Apr 25 with 4188 views | 442Dale |
1002 sold in the first 30 days, averaging 33 a day.
If that continues to be the average up until 21st June, we'll be looking at a total of 2883. | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 18:34 - Apr 25 with 4131 views | DaleiLama |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:37 - Apr 25 by D_Alien |
I could also be suffering an ever-more-frequent memory failure but isn't it just that ST holders seats are retained until the deadline, but there's nothing stopping anyone from booking another available seat, and that'd include ST holders?
Edit: ah, unless you mean an ST holder wants to book a current ST seat which might become available after the deadline? The number of instances where that might occur would be in the tens, not the hundreds though? [Post edited 25 Apr 2017 16:41]
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Exactly what you said in your edit and no, I'm guessing it won't be many. Although as of now, with maybe 900 of the current ST + 1/2 ST holders not renewing yet, a lot of current ST seats will potentially still be in play for those hoping to move. Also, for those intending to buy for the first time, they may be hoping for a better placed seat than what is on offer now pre-deadline?
I'm convinced that the cashflow argument is the one most affecting sales though and it's good to break the thousand barrier. | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 22:02 - Apr 25 with 3904 views | BlueMessiah |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 17:55 - Apr 25 by 442Dale |
1002 sold in the first 30 days, averaging 33 a day.
If that continues to be the average up until 21st June, we'll be looking at a total of 2883. |
If that was the case then it would be worth the 2883 holders clubbing in £2.03 apiece to buy up the 117 deposits to take the total to 3000, thus then saving themselves another £50!! |  |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 07:31 - Apr 26 with 3724 views | nordenblue |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 22:02 - Apr 25 by BlueMessiah |
If that was the case then it would be worth the 2883 holders clubbing in £2.03 apiece to buy up the 117 deposits to take the total to 3000, thus then saving themselves another £50!! |
Then who pays the final balance of the extra 117 STs? |  | | |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 08:04 - Apr 26 with 3695 views | 442Dale |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 07:31 - Apr 26 by nordenblue |
Then who pays the final balance of the extra 117 STs? |
Nobody has to. Although it's a far-fetched scenario, it's another example of how targets can be achieved with people buying into the scheme in different ways - also see those buying extra Junior Dale ST in this thread.
With the price now guaranteed at £250 the £50 gamble is certainly less of one. The £10 u11 ST isn't a gamble at all as kids get scarves etc as well as a ST. | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 11:08 - Apr 26 with 3560 views | DaleiLama |
Existing Season Ticket holders have until April 30th to secure their current seat for the 2017/18 campaign.
After this date, all reservations will be lifted and seats will go on open sale.
Supporters are reminded that they do not have to make the trip to the Crown Oil Arena to purchase a Season Ticket Deposit. They can be bought online at www.rafctickets.co.uk.
In addition to the club’s normal opening hours, the Ticket Office will be open from 10am until 4pm on Saturday 29th April and we urge supporters to make the most of this extra opportunity to pay their £50 Season Ticket Deposits in order to avoid matchday queues.
On Sunday 30th April when Dale face Bradford City at the Crown Oil Arena, Ticket Office staff will process Season Ticket from 9am up until kick-off (midday) and after the game (until 3pm). Please note, there will be no telesales on Sunday 30th April.
Read more at http://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/news/article/2016-17/existing-season-tickets-holder | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 11:10 - Apr 26 with 3550 views | southealingdale |
Do the country season tickets announced this week count to the total does anyone know? | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 15:47 - Apr 26 with 3341 views | nordenblue |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 08:04 - Apr 26 by 442Dale |
Nobody has to. Although it's a far-fetched scenario, it's another example of how targets can be achieved with people buying into the scheme in different ways - also see those buying extra Junior Dale ST in this thread.
With the price now guaranteed at £250 the £50 gamble is certainly less of one. The £10 u11 ST isn't a gamble at all as kids get scarves etc as well as a ST. |
Surely the longer term idea of this initiative is to increase crowds,How's putting a deposit on 100 plus none existent ST help that,it just exaggerates the sales yet does nothing for the actual home crowd,income etc? | | | |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 15:58 - Apr 26 with 3318 views | 1907 |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 15:47 - Apr 26 by nordenblue |
Surely the longer term idea of this initiative is to increase crowds,How's putting a deposit on 100 plus none existent ST help that,it just exaggerates the sales yet does nothing for the actual home crowd,income etc? |
If we can do everything in our power to shift enough tickets to get the price down to £110, that could be the difference for some floating fans actually committing to the season ticket and getting hooked? | | | |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:00 - Apr 26 with 3316 views | 442Dale |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 15:47 - Apr 26 by nordenblue |
Surely the longer term idea of this initiative is to increase crowds,How's putting a deposit on 100 plus none existent ST help that,it just exaggerates the sales yet does nothing for the actual home crowd,income etc? |
Yep. All about the crowds, that's why it was noted about that particular scenario being a bit far-fetched. However, it's things *like* that which will increase crowds if people buy extra deposits to push the total up and make others think about jumping on board themselves; it's how the whole concept should work to get to 4000.
We've seen people buy tickets for the local community, directors getting them, car companies offering them as part of their deals, people buying Junior Dale ST for kids who they might never have got them for before, basically allsorts pushing the total up. And that's why every fan who can afford the £50, should get involved as soon as possible, because when they do newer potential fans may consider getting a ST themselves as they see what's going on.
All about the numbers now, which will then hopefully convert into more turning up in the years to come. [Post edited 26 Apr 2017 16:01]
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:51 - Apr 26 with 3228 views | nordenblue |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 15:58 - Apr 26 by 1907 |
If we can do everything in our power to shift enough tickets to get the price down to £110, that could be the difference for some floating fans actually committing to the season ticket and getting hooked? |
Kind of supports the idea why they should have just been 110 from the off,creating a whole lot of interest for a limited amount of season tickets straight from the beginning not some moving the goal posts type advertising which it will no doubt end up...
Above all massive credit to the club for trying this initiative I just think it's been done absolutely arse about tit | | | |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:53 - Apr 26 with 3225 views | nordenblue |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:00 - Apr 26 by 442Dale |
Yep. All about the crowds, that's why it was noted about that particular scenario being a bit far-fetched. However, it's things *like* that which will increase crowds if people buy extra deposits to push the total up and make others think about jumping on board themselves; it's how the whole concept should work to get to 4000.
We've seen people buy tickets for the local community, directors getting them, car companies offering them as part of their deals, people buying Junior Dale ST for kids who they might never have got them for before, basically allsorts pushing the total up. And that's why every fan who can afford the £50, should get involved as soon as possible, because when they do newer potential fans may consider getting a ST themselves as they see what's going on.
All about the numbers now, which will then hopefully convert into more turning up in the years to come. [Post edited 26 Apr 2017 16:01]
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Which is a great idea on its own,but who's to say that someone who's been donated a ticket for free is inclined to attend regularly/at all, surely if someone's paid it's a better starting point for them to get the bug I'd imagine? | | | |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 17:43 - Apr 26 with 3155 views | dingdangblue |
Got my 3 today (mine and 2 kids). As an aside - anyone who wants to pay by credit card but pay no fees it is so simple to pick up a gift voucher from the club shop for the required amount (with no added charge) and use it in the ticket office. |  |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 21:05 - Apr 26 with 2917 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 17:43 - Apr 26 by dingdangblue |
Got my 3 today (mine and 2 kids). As an aside - anyone who wants to pay by credit card but pay no fees it is so simple to pick up a gift voucher from the club shop for the required amount (with no added charge) and use it in the ticket office. |
i paid with a credit card and was charged no fee |  |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 13:51 - Apr 29 with 1915 views | scarrow |
Boycott by Coventry fans, they've just shifted their 500th |  |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:05 - Apr 29 with 1795 views | 442Dale |
Be interesting to see how many we've sold after today/tomorrow. | |
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| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:27 - Apr 29 with 1758 views | Daley_Lama |
| Season Ticket Totaliser Thread on 16:05 - Apr 29 by 442Dale |
Be interesting to see how many we've sold after today/tomorrow. |
1226 sold is the katest figure just tweeted. |  |
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