| Gay pardons 09:52 - Oct 22 with 4366 views | perchrockjack |
Well, should they be for offences at that but now repealed.
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| Gay pardons on 20:02 - Oct 22 with 1250 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Gay pardons on 19:43 - Oct 22 by Swanzay |
It shouldn't be a pardon, it should be an apologie,end off! |
Or at least an apology.
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| Gay pardons on 20:08 - Oct 22 with 1239 views | blueytheblue |
| Gay pardons on 18:57 - Oct 22 by Jack_Meoff |
Then shame on the c*nts that passed the law. Didn't make it right did it. Your last paragraph is ludicrous you f*cking lunatic you bluey mun. |
Did it ever occur to you the last paragraph was an over-exaggerated example?
Guess not.
It was a grossly unjust law, absolutely agree. The fact remains people can only be judged based upon the law as it stands at the time... thankfully the law has changed. | |
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| Gay pardons on 20:09 - Oct 22 with 1236 views | NeiltheTaylor |
Is perchie considering legal recourse? | |
| Joe_bradshaw -I thought the cryochamber was the new name for Cardiff's stadium.
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| Gay pardons on 20:15 - Oct 22 with 1225 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Gay pardons on 20:08 - Oct 22 by blueytheblue |
Did it ever occur to you the last paragraph was an over-exaggerated example?
Guess not.
It was a grossly unjust law, absolutely agree. The fact remains people can only be judged based upon the law as it stands at the time... thankfully the law has changed. |
Not really how you sold your initial post eh [Post edited 22 Oct 2016 20:17]
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| Gay pardons on 20:19 - Oct 22 with 1217 views | blueytheblue |
| Gay pardons on 20:15 - Oct 22 by Jack_Meoff |
Not really how you sold your initial post eh [Post edited 22 Oct 2016 20:17]
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Agreed, possibly could have phrased it better.
The issue for me is that as society evolves, it's at different places at different times.
Yes, that law *now* is horrendous, at the time? Eh...
So, at what point do future generations get to stop apologising / pardoning? Should pinky-whites continually apologise for the empire, slavery when that was nothing to do with us? LGBT rights have obviously come on in leaps and bounds, it's time to stop looking to the past for injustices and look to the future. | |
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| Gay pardons on 20:30 - Oct 22 with 1200 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Gay pardons on 20:19 - Oct 22 by blueytheblue |
Agreed, possibly could have phrased it better.
The issue for me is that as society evolves, it's at different places at different times.
Yes, that law *now* is horrendous, at the time? Eh...
So, at what point do future generations get to stop apologising / pardoning? Should pinky-whites continually apologise for the empire, slavery when that was nothing to do with us? LGBT rights have obviously come on in leaps and bounds, it's time to stop looking to the past for injustices and look to the future. |
There are some laws which are so obviously unjust, that a retrospective pardon is the most human way to react. This is one of those instances. Why on earth should people have parents / grandparents / uncles etc that are even now regarded as criminals (yes, criminals) for a consensual relationship with another adult. No one has suggested any type of retrospective compensation, but it is entirely correct that their criminal conviction be wiped clean and they be allowed to rest in peace. | | | |
| Gay pardons on 20:39 - Oct 22 with 1186 views | Gowerjack |
| Gay pardons on 20:30 - Oct 22 by londonlisa2001 |
There are some laws which are so obviously unjust, that a retrospective pardon is the most human way to react. This is one of those instances. Why on earth should people have parents / grandparents / uncles etc that are even now regarded as criminals (yes, criminals) for a consensual relationship with another adult. No one has suggested any type of retrospective compensation, but it is entirely correct that their criminal conviction be wiped clean and they be allowed to rest in peace. |
Spot on. |  |
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| Gay pardons on 21:04 - Oct 22 with 1160 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Gay pardons on 20:19 - Oct 22 by blueytheblue |
Agreed, possibly could have phrased it better.
The issue for me is that as society evolves, it's at different places at different times.
Yes, that law *now* is horrendous, at the time? Eh...
So, at what point do future generations get to stop apologising / pardoning? Should pinky-whites continually apologise for the empire, slavery when that was nothing to do with us? LGBT rights have obviously come on in leaps and bounds, it's time to stop looking to the past for injustices and look to the future. |
As a Cardiff fan and a Tory voter I feel I should dislike you as default but you do make it difficult to do so bluey, f*cker you... | |
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| Gay pardons on 22:49 - Oct 22 with 1132 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Gay pardons on 20:00 - Oct 22 by Gowerjack |
One of my favourite songs.
Played it for years in bands...
Must have known the song for 25 years before I realised what it was about!
#pennydropped |
When creatitity was at it's zenith. RIP music industry |  |
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| Gay pardons on 22:59 - Oct 22 with 1126 views | Joe_bradshaw |
To think we jailed one of our greatest heroes of the second world war who saved countless lives and shortened the war because he was a homosexual, having chemically castrated him first. |  |
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| Gay pardons on 23:11 - Oct 22 with 1117 views | porschejack |
| Gay pardons on 10:38 - Oct 22 by perchrockjack |
Any pertinent reply.
We were discussing over dinner last night.
Some say ,yes, others no as the law was at it was then.
I'm on the fence
Doesn't mean I'm bisexual really ,either |
Give me a kiss and I'll tell you what I think . | | | |
| Gay pardons on 23:14 - Oct 22 with 1115 views | Darran |
Strange thread. |  |
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| Gay pardons on 23:29 - Oct 22 with 1103 views | builthjack |
| Gay pardons on 23:14 - Oct 22 by Darran |
Strange thread. |
Pardon? |  |
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| Gay pardons on 23:30 - Oct 22 with 1102 views | exiledclaseboy |
Pardons are inadequate. |  |
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| Gay pardons on 05:02 - Oct 23 with 1034 views | phact0rri |
| Gay pardons on 20:19 - Oct 22 by blueytheblue |
Agreed, possibly could have phrased it better.
The issue for me is that as society evolves, it's at different places at different times.
Yes, that law *now* is horrendous, at the time? Eh...
So, at what point do future generations get to stop apologising / pardoning? Should pinky-whites continually apologise for the empire, slavery when that was nothing to do with us? LGBT rights have obviously come on in leaps and bounds, it's time to stop looking to the past for injustices and look to the future. |
Huh? So what you are saying is justice, and barbarity is time related issue? Thats complete nonsense. I will give you more people can rid themselves of tradtional and religious barbarity with more information and sides to issues now. But that doesn't make the laws then any more just than they are now. The persecution of people for nothing more than their identity whether thats sex, race, or orientation is -and always- has been unjust and awful.
Just like the use of the atomic bomb by the US-- we see its awful now and should have been a war crime. but it was awful then, even if yanks were blinded by revenge to admit it as such.
As to when should 'future generations stop apologizing'? I have been away from the UK for sometime, but last I looked laws tend to get just the one pardon. [Post edited 23 Oct 2016 5:04]
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| Gay pardons on 10:57 - Oct 23 with 986 views | perchrockjack |
Not strange at all.
It's news
Non Swansea city news on correct channel
Not strange to see it used to have digs as despised posters. | |
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| Gay pardons on 10:59 - Oct 23 with 984 views | Highjack |
The law at the time was heavily influenced by religious faith, far removed from today's relatively secular society, and as levicitus clearly states: a man who lieth with another manneth, he has committedeth an abomination and should be puttetheth to deathetheth.
It's a shame people focused on that one line and similar passages instead of the vast majority of the rest of the bible which is all about tolerance and peace and forgiveness, otherwise we could have got a lot further a lot sooner. |  |
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| Gay pardons on 14:55 - Oct 23 with 949 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Gay pardons on 10:59 - Oct 23 by Highjack |
The law at the time was heavily influenced by religious faith, far removed from today's relatively secular society, and as levicitus clearly states: a man who lieth with another manneth, he has committedeth an abomination and should be puttetheth to deathetheth.
It's a shame people focused on that one line and similar passages instead of the vast majority of the rest of the bible which is all about tolerance and peace and forgiveness, otherwise we could have got a lot further a lot sooner. |
Frankie Boyle - " A man ho lieth with another man should be stoned.......................... It helps, that's all I'm saying" | |
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| Gay pardons on 14:59 - Oct 23 with 942 views | Highjack |
| Gay pardons on 14:55 - Oct 23 by Brynmill_Jack |
Frankie Boyle - " A man ho lieth with another man should be stoned.......................... It helps, that's all I'm saying" |
Good advice but Keith Vaz prefers using poppers. Apparently it helps relax the anal sphincter. | |
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| Gay pardons on 15:31 - Oct 23 with 929 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Gay pardons on 14:59 - Oct 23 by Highjack |
Good advice but Keith Vaz prefers using poppers. Apparently it helps relax the anal sphincter. |
Did you hear the woman on the bake off right now? "I have to mash up my batter"!!!! Filth!!! | |
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| Gay pardons on 15:42 - Oct 23 with 917 views | Highjack |
| Gay pardons on 15:31 - Oct 23 by Brynmill_Jack |
Did you hear the woman on the bake off right now? "I have to mash up my batter"!!!! Filth!!! |
Sadly no I didn't hear that because I don't watch that shyte, but it deserves an ooooh matron anyway. | |
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| Gay pardons on 18:14 - Oct 23 with 896 views | Swanjack10 |
| Gay pardons on 14:59 - Oct 23 by Highjack |
Good advice but Keith Vaz prefers using poppers. Apparently it helps relax the anal sphincter. |
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| Gay pardons on 19:46 - Oct 23 with 859 views | stonedroller |
I pardoned a gay before but it didn't stop him touching my old boy. | | | |
| Gay pardons (n/t) on 19:47 - Oct 23 with 858 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Gay pardons on 19:46 - Oct 23 by stonedroller |
I pardoned a gay before but it didn't stop him touching my old boy. |
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