| Junior Doctors Strike 22:04 - Feb 10 with 16063 views | Swanzay |
Is it me or is the BBC towing the Jeremy Hunt party line today, that its not him to blame?
I fully support the JDs.
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 15:52 - Feb 11 with 1990 views | bangorjack |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 12:45 - Feb 11 by Highjack |
Wish someone would shaft me by offering a 11% pay rise.
They must be living on bread and water the poor dabs. |
It's not actually an 11% pay rise though.
Junior doctors receive a basic pay and then an extra percentage of this based on amount of anti-social hours worked.
For example, 1st year doctors receive a basic pay of £22,000, and the majority then have an extra 40% for out of hours work, bringing annual pay up to around £30,000.
Jeremy Hunt is offering an 11% increase to the basic pay, but is simultaneously drastically reducing the out of hours supplement, meaning it works out for (I think) 95% of junior doctors as a pay cut.
But that doesn't make such a good soundbite for the media. |  | | |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 16:24 - Feb 11 with 1952 views | Andy1300 |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 15:52 - Feb 11 by bangorjack |
It's not actually an 11% pay rise though.
Junior doctors receive a basic pay and then an extra percentage of this based on amount of anti-social hours worked.
For example, 1st year doctors receive a basic pay of £22,000, and the majority then have an extra 40% for out of hours work, bringing annual pay up to around £30,000.
Jeremy Hunt is offering an 11% increase to the basic pay, but is simultaneously drastically reducing the out of hours supplement, meaning it works out for (I think) 95% of junior doctors as a pay cut.
But that doesn't make such a good soundbite for the media. |
most people won't see that though |  |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 16:33 - Feb 11 with 1942 views | Swanzay |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 16:24 - Feb 11 by Andy1300 |
most people won't see that though |
Not if the watch the BBC Tory News show, they wont. | | | |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 17:29 - Feb 11 with 1901 views | lancasterswan |
No, with the exception of the i, guardian and bbc all the rest are putting the boot into the doctors. The BBC, after weeks of noone being able to talk to them, have a queue of Government spin doctors waiting to smarm their way through the next few days with a 'charm' offensive. As always, the left and right hate the beeb for different reasons but in truth they do a decent job for the middle ground, giving equal air time to both sides. They will never win in those circumstances. | | | |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:18 - Feb 11 with 1864 views | acejack3065 |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 15:28 - Feb 11 by Flashberryjack |
I thought they were already on strike in Wales.......unfortunately a family member has urgently needed to see a doctor out of hours, virtually impossible to get to see one, so hours spent in the back of an ambulance outside A & E. |
Junior Doctors aren't on strike in Wales because Mark Drakeford hasn't picked a fight with them |  | | |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:31 - Feb 11 with 1845 views | Highjack |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 16:33 - Feb 11 by Swanzay |
Not if the watch the BBC Tory News show, they wont. |
Have you considered that the media you read/view might be slightly biased too? It could happen you know. |  |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:40 - Feb 11 with 1827 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Sign or get out
The totalitarian state cometh .
F@cking appauling stuff |  |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:46 - Feb 11 with 1818 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 09:46 - Feb 11 by Kerouac |
No it's not.
It's about numerous studies that have reached the conclusion that the customers get worse outcomes on the weekend.
Nobody is talking about privatising anything. Prove me wrong.
The doctors are being asked to work less hours for more or less the same money. Prove me wrong.
Better health outcomes are more likely when there are more doctors on at the weekend and they've worked less hours. Prove me wrong.
You're all just showing you have no grasp of the issues, a massive chip on your shoulders and an obvious agenda.
The NHS has to be managed by the people we pay to manage it on our behalf.
Being a doctor is meant to be a vocation not a political platform.
The unions are politicised by left wing knob heads who oppose all change. They will lead their members out of a job if they're not careful.
People are queuing up to be doctors and teachers and firemen.
Why is that exactly?
Because they think they're getting a shit deal?
Don't make me laugh. |
Serious question. Why does everything have to be seen through the 'filters' of left and right? Why can't an issue be judged objectively without political leanings? Why do you assume those pesky 'lefties' just can't grasp this issue with the depth of knowledge you seem to possess, yet they're the ones with chips on their shoulders?
And no-one is talking about privatisation? Why don't you enlighten us all with the purpose of the Health & Social Care Act 2012? |  |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:47 - Feb 11 with 1816 views | Flashberryjack |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:31 - Feb 11 by Highjack |
Have you considered that the media you read/view might be slightly biased too? It could happen you know. |
Never ? |  |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:51 - Feb 11 with 1805 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:31 - Feb 11 by Highjack |
Have you considered that the media you read/view might be slightly biased too? It could happen you know. |
The BBC is meant to be impartial though isn't it. My aching sides. And they send people round knocking the door asking why I don't fund their state propaganda. | |
| If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever. |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:54 - Feb 11 with 1798 views | exiledclaseboy |
So is the BBC biased towards the left or right this evening? I lose track so easily. |  |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:31 - Feb 11 with 1762 views | waynekerr55 |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 18:54 - Feb 11 by exiledclaseboy |
So is the BBC biased towards the left or right this evening? I lose track so easily. |
Depends which way it pulled up its metaphorical pants, I suppose. |  |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:38 - Feb 11 with 1755 views | blueytheblue |
A mate works in the accounts department of the local NHS Trust.
We discussed the strike plans and he was pretty livid about it.
From memory, he pointed out the junior doctors were the most pampered primas in the whole NHS, the bulk of his work involved processing their expenses claims. He pointed out the "oooh we have to pay for our annual membership fees" was a joke of a comment given the vast majority claimed it back on expenses.
He also pointed out he was routinely reporting doctors at all levels to the audit department for wrongdoings yet little ever came of it. | |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:39 - Feb 11 with 1546 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:38 - Feb 11 by blueytheblue |
A mate works in the accounts department of the local NHS Trust.
We discussed the strike plans and he was pretty livid about it.
From memory, he pointed out the junior doctors were the most pampered primas in the whole NHS, the bulk of his work involved processing their expenses claims. He pointed out the "oooh we have to pay for our annual membership fees" was a joke of a comment given the vast majority claimed it back on expenses.
He also pointed out he was routinely reporting doctors at all levels to the audit department for wrongdoings yet little ever came of it. |
Well I'm convinced. | |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:45 - Feb 11 with 1538 views | blueytheblue |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:39 - Feb 11 by exiledclaseboy |
Well I'm convinced. |
Didn't ask you to be convinced.
I'll take toe word of someone I've known over 20 years who works in the financial side over rhetoric every time.
Personally, I'd like to see a number of those doctors look for work elsewhere. It'll be interesting seeing the scrote who wasted 14 hours of my wife's time claiming her rash was a "reaction to new washing powder" when she pointed out we'd used the same powder for decades; that is was a lupus rash, something she suffers from. Said scrote claimed he didn't know what lupus was. Hint; worst case it can shut down all major organs. So pretty f***ing serious then. Scrote referred her to dermatology who instantly said it was a lupus rash and why the f*** had she been sent there...
Oh wait, I forgot, all NHS frontline staff are clearly the most competent ever, that seems to be the mantra. | |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:49 - Feb 11 with 1535 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:45 - Feb 11 by blueytheblue |
Didn't ask you to be convinced.
I'll take toe word of someone I've known over 20 years who works in the financial side over rhetoric every time.
Personally, I'd like to see a number of those doctors look for work elsewhere. It'll be interesting seeing the scrote who wasted 14 hours of my wife's time claiming her rash was a "reaction to new washing powder" when she pointed out we'd used the same powder for decades; that is was a lupus rash, something she suffers from. Said scrote claimed he didn't know what lupus was. Hint; worst case it can shut down all major organs. So pretty f***ing serious then. Scrote referred her to dermatology who instantly said it was a lupus rash and why the f*** had she been sent there...
Oh wait, I forgot, all NHS frontline staff are clearly the most competent ever, that seems to be the mantra. |
No one's pretending that mistakes are not made either. But you're clearly bitter and understandably so. And of course you're a Tory shill. [Post edited 11 Feb 2016 19:49]
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:50 - Feb 11 with 1532 views | waynekerr55 |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:49 - Feb 11 by exiledclaseboy |
No one's pretending that mistakes are not made either. But you're clearly bitter and understandably so. And of course you're a Tory shill. [Post edited 11 Feb 2016 19:49]
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He's Danish? | |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:57 - Feb 11 with 1522 views | blueytheblue |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:49 - Feb 11 by exiledclaseboy |
No one's pretending that mistakes are not made either. But you're clearly bitter and understandably so. And of course you're a Tory shill. [Post edited 11 Feb 2016 19:49]
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Yes, not knowing what an illness was and decrying it despite it being in her f*cking notes was just a mistake. One that could have killed her. Damn shame. Bitter over some c*nt potentially killing my wife? God I'm so evil. | |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 20:00 - Feb 11 with 1516 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:57 - Feb 11 by blueytheblue |
Yes, not knowing what an illness was and decrying it despite it being in her f*cking notes was just a mistake. One that could have killed her. Damn shame. Bitter over some c*nt potentially killing my wife? God I'm so evil. |
You saw the bit where I said "understandably so", yes?
Try therapy. You have anger issues. [Post edited 11 Feb 2016 20:00]
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 20:05 - Feb 11 with 1500 views | blueytheblue |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 20:00 - Feb 11 by exiledclaseboy |
You saw the bit where I said "understandably so", yes?
Try therapy. You have anger issues. [Post edited 11 Feb 2016 20:00]
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Hulk smaaaaaaaash. | |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 20:05 - Feb 11 with 1500 views | skippyjack |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 19:49 - Feb 11 by exiledclaseboy |
No one's pretending that mistakes are not made either. But you're clearly bitter and understandably so. And of course you're a Tory shill. [Post edited 11 Feb 2016 19:49]
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Yeah, but i'm bitter about the Labour party blaming the 'Tories' for my predicament, when it was in fact Labour.. followed up by the Tories.
At least the Tories admit they're c*nts.
While Labour crown themselves as the party of the 'people'..
And i have family on either side of the fence an all.. Pro Tory, and Pro Labour.
And i'm not voting for any of the corrupt c*nts. |  |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 20:07 - Feb 11 with 1491 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 20:05 - Feb 11 by blueytheblue |
Hulk smaaaaaaaash. |
That's more like it. | |
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| Junior Doctors Strike on 20:08 - Feb 11 with 1485 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Junior Doctors Strike on 20:05 - Feb 11 by skippyjack |
Yeah, but i'm bitter about the Labour party blaming the 'Tories' for my predicament, when it was in fact Labour.. followed up by the Tories.
At least the Tories admit they're c*nts.
While Labour crown themselves as the party of the 'people'..
And i have family on either side of the fence an all.. Pro Tory, and Pro Labour.
And i'm not voting for any of the corrupt c*nts. |
I wasn't talking to you. | |
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