| Darnell furlong 12:57 - Jan 5 with 6506 views | tonyQPR |
Won't be getting near the 1st team anytime soon,off too join mr s derrys Cambridge on loan. |  | | |  |
| Darnell furlong on 13:04 - Jan 5 with 4684 views | olderR |
Don't worry plenty of old Prem lags looking for clubs .
On the other hand.
It's only for a month so hope yet. |  | | |
| Darnell furlong on 13:06 - Jan 5 with 4669 views | aston_hoop |
Symptomatic of the new QPR
- Already had a great spell at this level this season, doesn't need to do it again
- Is a natural right back
- We don't currently have a fit natural right back
- Has already shown competency in that position with the first team
What do we have to gain from playing Onouha/Henry there? Nothing at all. Literally nothing. |  |
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| Darnell furlong on 13:06 - Jan 5 with 4669 views | TacticalR |
So the rumours about Derry's wife picking the team are true then? |  |
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| Darnell furlong on 13:16 - Jan 5 with 4604 views | daveB |
Is this the same Furlong who Ramsey was slated for picking last year as he was too young |  | | |
| Darnell furlong on 13:17 - Jan 5 with 4595 views | Hunterhoop |
| Darnell furlong on 13:06 - Jan 5 by TacticalR |
So the rumours about Derry's wife picking the team are true then? |
She's a canny one, that Mrs Derry. She plays good cop to Shaun's bad cop and she can spot a full back when she's sees one.
Seriously, though, this makes perfect sense......not. He went away, got rave reviews at Northampton (same level as Cambridge), our first choice RB is injured, we're wasting one of our first choice CBs at RB filling in, we can't go up anymore, we're going to get an FFP fine so signing players is tricky and it's hardy a vintage year for the Championship. WHAT BETTER TIME WILL THERE EVER BE TO PLAY HIM AT RB?!?! |  | | |
| Darnell furlong on 13:18 - Jan 5 with 4584 views | simmo |
Weve got the ex Watford guy on trial, he's a RB. Maybe they think guaranteed games at Cambridge for a few months is better than sporadic games here and the new guy can fill in until then. Also, Perch might be back shortly.
Personally I would liek to see Furlong get a run, but there you go. |  |
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| Darnell furlong on 13:21 - Jan 5 with 4567 views | aston_hoop |
| Darnell furlong on 13:16 - Jan 5 by daveB |
Is this the same Furlong who Ramsey was slated for picking last year as he was too young |
By a very small minority. I recall a lot of us were very pleased to see him in the team. | |
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| Darnell furlong on 13:30 - Jan 5 with 4519 views | Hunterhoop |
| Darnell furlong on 13:16 - Jan 5 by daveB |
Is this the same Furlong who Ramsey was slated for picking last year as he was too young |
Err...no.
It is same Furlong who Ramsey picked last year, a decision the majority of fans praised, especially after his performance away at Hull, whilst a minority criticised Ramsey after the going over Furlong took in the 2nd half at home to Arsenal by one of the best players in the Prem, in Alexis Sanchez. This minority felt he was too young and not good enough. The majority did not criticise Ramsey nor the player for him playing a fair bit last year. | | | |
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| Darnell furlong on 13:35 - Jan 5 with 4479 views | baz_qpr |
Les and co have already said he is not ready and they picked to make a point last year. If he was anywhere near ready he would be on loan at a league one club |  | | |
| Darnell furlong on 13:37 - Jan 5 with 4470 views | bosh67 |
I think to be fair Harriman will get in ahead of him. Oh, hang on, he's going back out on loan as well. I think we are looking to bring Mirsad Fazlagić in from the former Yugoslavia on a three year deal. He's 71 but he's kept himself in trim. |  |
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| Darnell furlong on 13:54 - Jan 5 with 4415 views | Northernr |
As Simmo says, we've got some Italian on trial, and he used to play for good teams in Italy, and Watford. Make another signing I reckon, always worked before. |  | | |
| Darnell furlong on 13:57 - Jan 5 with 4403 views | baz_qpr |
| Darnell furlong on 13:37 - Jan 5 by bosh67 |
I think to be fair Harriman will get in ahead of him. Oh, hang on, he's going back out on loan as well. I think we are looking to bring Mirsad Fazlagić in from the former Yugoslavia on a three year deal. He's 71 but he's kept himself in trim. |
If Harriman is so good why cant he get a loan move above league 2 level. Been a couple of years since he was at league 1 level | | | |
| Darnell furlong on 14:00 - Jan 5 with 4390 views | JonDoeman |
Very strange that he gets hung out to dry in the prem v Sanchez & Bolasie , but can't get a game for us in the championship! |  |
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| Darnell furlong on 14:06 - Jan 5 with 4375 views | stevec |
| Darnell furlong on 14:00 - Jan 5 by JonDoeman |
Very strange that he gets hung out to dry in the prem v Sanchez & Bolasie , but can't get a game for us in the championship! |
Thanks to Ramsey, he's probably still seeing those two in his nightmares. |  | | |
| Darnell furlong on 14:07 - Jan 5 with 4372 views | Northernr |
| Darnell furlong on 14:06 - Jan 5 by stevec |
Thanks to Ramsey, he's probably still seeing those two in his nightmares. |
Any prize from the middle shelf for today's gratuitous, shoe-horned slagging of Chris Ramsey.
And as it turns out, you could have waited ten minutes and slagged him off in a relevant way!
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| Darnell furlong on 14:13 - Jan 5 with 4342 views | Hunterhoop |
| Darnell furlong on 13:54 - Jan 5 by Northernr |
As Simmo says, we've got some Italian on trial, and he used to play for good teams in Italy, and Watford. Make another signing I reckon, always worked before. |
And this is exactly why we're flawed as a club and, whatever the rhetoric of the summer, we're miles away from it now, whoever's fault that is.
I understood the first Furlong loan spell. He had stuggled a bit in his las few games in the Prem, was still very inexperienced in terms of first team football. We send him to a League 1 start to get fist team experience.
He does his time. He excels. We recall him. Our (out of form) first choice RB gets injured. But we don't put him in, we fudge the whole defence to cover for our first choice RB. We send Furlong out on loan again and we look to bring in a 29yr old journeyman.
It is so frustrating. A good League 2 RB, which by all accounts he was (for a team in the promotion spots), cannot be so bad a Championship RB that it will make such a big difference to our results. Surely?! Besides, history, the standard of this league, our points haul, games played, etc, overwhelmingly indicate we're not going up nor down. So what's the risk? It's almost risk free to play him. And then there is the benefit that you give young players the hope of making the first team and motivation to stay with us. And if he struggles, our first choice RB might soon be fit, or we can go back to fudging the defence to put Onouha there.
Simply ignoring Furlong and signing ANOTHER player to fill a gap for a couple of months, when we can't go up and won't go down, is just so pointless and short sighted. | | | |
| Darnell furlong on 14:14 - Jan 5 with 4331 views | BasingstokeR |
| Darnell furlong on 13:06 - Jan 5 by aston_hoop |
Symptomatic of the new QPR
- Already had a great spell at this level this season, doesn't need to do it again
- Is a natural right back
- We don't currently have a fit natural right back
- Has already shown competency in that position with the first team
What do we have to gain from playing Onouha/Henry there? Nothing at all. Literally nothing. |
If only we had someone in place to oversee the integration between the Academy, Development Squad and First Team, as well as focusing on the monitoring and reporting of players on loan to other clubs.  |  | | |
| Darnell furlong on 14:34 - Jan 5 with 4262 views | LowerloftLad |
I think there is a good little player in furlong what happened at Northampton did it just not work out ?
The player I'm really looking forward to seeing is Robinson the young left back we signed from Liverpool |  |
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| Darnell furlong on 14:36 - Jan 5 with 4248 views | simmo |
| Darnell furlong on 14:13 - Jan 5 by Hunterhoop |
And this is exactly why we're flawed as a club and, whatever the rhetoric of the summer, we're miles away from it now, whoever's fault that is.
I understood the first Furlong loan spell. He had stuggled a bit in his las few games in the Prem, was still very inexperienced in terms of first team football. We send him to a League 1 start to get fist team experience.
He does his time. He excels. We recall him. Our (out of form) first choice RB gets injured. But we don't put him in, we fudge the whole defence to cover for our first choice RB. We send Furlong out on loan again and we look to bring in a 29yr old journeyman.
It is so frustrating. A good League 2 RB, which by all accounts he was (for a team in the promotion spots), cannot be so bad a Championship RB that it will make such a big difference to our results. Surely?! Besides, history, the standard of this league, our points haul, games played, etc, overwhelmingly indicate we're not going up nor down. So what's the risk? It's almost risk free to play him. And then there is the benefit that you give young players the hope of making the first team and motivation to stay with us. And if he struggles, our first choice RB might soon be fit, or we can go back to fudging the defence to put Onouha there.
Simply ignoring Furlong and signing ANOTHER player to fill a gap for a couple of months, when we can't go up and won't go down, is just so pointless and short sighted. |
That's Fernandes though. Any talk of long term, building, young players we produce ourselves, etc. is exaxctly that, TALK.
This all comes from him and the board. | |
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| Darnell furlong on 14:40 - Jan 5 with 4219 views | paulparker |
| Darnell furlong on 14:36 - Jan 5 by simmo |
That's Fernandes though. Any talk of long term, building, young players we produce ourselves, etc. is exaxctly that, TALK.
This all comes from him and the board. |
So basically the board are telling the Management that the "established " players must be picked
just what I said the other week but was slaughtered for it |  |
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| Darnell furlong on 14:43 - Jan 5 with 4200 views | Jamie |
| Darnell furlong on 13:16 - Jan 5 by daveB |
Is this the same Furlong who Ramsey was slated for picking last year as he was too young |
Don't remember anyone saying he was too young. Some may have worried about a guy making his professional debut in a PL game, but having gone out to Northsmpton and gotten good reviews, I doubt anyone would question him playing every week for us. | | | |
| Darnell furlong on 14:53 - Jan 5 with 4168 views | simmo |
| Darnell furlong on 14:40 - Jan 5 by paulparker |
So basically the board are telling the Management that the "established " players must be picked
just what I said the other week but was slaughtered for it |
No, that's not what I said. I said that the board, Fernandes especially, have abandoned the rhetoric of consolidation and building for the future in favour of getting back to the premier league ASAP - the same thing they've wanted all along. Hence the managers have always got another 'big name' to play rather than a younger, less accomplished player that might need some development before making a genuine impact.
As I said in a previous thread, the manager of QPR knows that if he plays the more established 'big' name players and they fail, he can say the players are underperforming (Redknapp), if he plays more kids and those that are less experienced and they fail, he will get slaughtered for not being in the mix when we have 'big' players available to choose from (Ramsey).
I don't think we're at a point like with Briatore where the board are actively telling the manager who to pick, but they also won't let a manager consolidate and essentially 'write off' this season when they think that Fer, Austin, Green, Phillips, Sandro, etc are all premier league players in all but name. Despite the fact that as we have seen this season, they are pretty poor, or chronically injured, or both. | |
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| Darnell furlong on 15:24 - Jan 5 with 4100 views | francisbowles |
Playing the devil's advocate here: could it be that he is a bit 'light-weight' for the championship? Not sure how big he is but we know that teams target the weakest link in a defence. If it's Ned at rb they target his lack of experience in that position, if a defender is slow they put on a fast winger, if he is easy to dominate in the air or physically they put on an extra six foot + striker.
I don't think last season's experience was brilliant for his confidence, I seem to remember a few getting on his back in the home games. | | | |
| Darnell furlong on 15:35 - Jan 5 with 4069 views | adhoc_qpr |
So much for FFP - we pay wages to 3 right backs, but loan 2 out and sign a new one as injury cover rather than play the youngsters in a pinch!
Then we also have 4 left backs on our books, but loan in a 35 year old and play him instead...
Being charitable i'll assume multiple managers know something we don't i.e. all the youth team players stink, because otherwise it makes very little sense to me! | | | |
| Darnell furlong on 16:33 - Jan 5 with 3958 views | Hunterhoop |
| Darnell furlong on 14:34 - Jan 5 by LowerloftLad |
I think there is a good little player in furlong what happened at Northampton did it just not work out ?
The player I'm really looking forward to seeing is Robinson the young left back we signed from Liverpool |
No. Far from it. It worked out brilliantly.
Their manager (and fans) were full of praise for him. The manager said something along the lines of: he's been great, there's a real player in there, loved to have kept him, too good for this level, will watch his career closely, wish him the best."
And we recalled him!! Why, if we won't play him when our RB is injured, especially if it means breaking up Ned and Hall who only conceded 5 in 10 games prior to Ned being shifted to RB.
It's madness. | | | |
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