| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... 19:49 - May 11 with 4987 views | JethroJack |
Premier League....
Played 14
Won 5
Drawn 4
Lost 5 (every one just by the odd goal).
Average points per match = 1.36
Extrapolated to full 38 game season = 52 points.
Oh, yeah, and 2 cracking games against Napoli (3rd in Serie A and Coppa Italia Winners 2014) which raised the club's profile enormously throughout Europe.
And....a very enjoyable 3pts and 3 goal contribution towards Cardiff City becoming the VERY FIRST Welsh team to be relegated from the Premier League.
MUST DO BETTER......Come on Garry, pull your finger out and start taking the job more seriously.
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:50 - May 11 with 1219 views | C_jack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:40 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
Your point is potentially perfectly valid. But seeing as managers take the criticism when form goes wrong, then it's fair to give them the praise when it comes back again. Don't you think. |
They should be criticised when bad form has a lasting effect on good teams, and rightly praised when good form lifts bad teams. |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:53 - May 11 with 1211 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:50 - May 11 by C_jack |
They should be criticised when bad form has a lasting effect on good teams, and rightly praised when good form lifts bad teams. |
Interesting take on it. Probably just simpler to say that managers are criticised when their teams are doing badly and praised when they're doing well. Which I agree with, obviously.
Which do you think applies to us? Are we a good team which has had intermittent runs of bad form or a bad team which has been lifted by intermittent runs of good form? |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 21:07 - May 11 with 1186 views | C_jack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:53 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
Interesting take on it. Probably just simpler to say that managers are criticised when their teams are doing badly and praised when they're doing well. Which I agree with, obviously.
Which do you think applies to us? Are we a good team which has had intermittent runs of bad form or a bad team which has been lifted by intermittent runs of good form? |
Most definitely a good team dragged down with a rough patch of form. We were nothing like Cardiff or Fulham, who arguably didn't put together any sort of form all season, just remained mediocre throughout.
Whatever reason the manager had to go, it doesn't matter. These players always had too much quality to continue that poor run of form, and results were always going to turn around, as they did. | |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 21:54 - May 11 with 1140 views | jackforever |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 19:59 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
More nonsense. At the start of Monk's time here we hammered Cardiff, got an excellent draw at Stoke, put in an excellent performance away at Liverpool, outplayed Napoli at the Liberty and gave a very good account of ourselves in Italy. Sure, there were a few bumps along the way, most notably the inept second half displays against Palace and West Brom but these were followed by the draw at Arsenal and the trouncing of Norwich and then Villa. The improvement in effort and performance was almost immediate. You and others just didn't want to see it. And still don't. |
Absolutely spot ferking on my good man. Perfect post. |  | | |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 22:03 - May 11 with 1123 views | VetchitBack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 21:07 - May 11 by C_jack |
Most definitely a good team dragged down with a rough patch of form. We were nothing like Cardiff or Fulham, who arguably didn't put together any sort of form all season, just remained mediocre throughout.
Whatever reason the manager had to go, it doesn't matter. These players always had too much quality to continue that poor run of form, and results were always going to turn around, as they did. |
C jack on " how to use sophistry/bizarrely over-complicated analysis to avoid giving Monk any credit" |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 22:24 - May 11 with 1096 views | 1jack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 19:59 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
More nonsense. At the start of Monk's time here we hammered Cardiff, got an excellent draw at Stoke, put in an excellent performance away at Liverpool, outplayed Napoli at the Liberty and gave a very good account of ourselves in Italy. Sure, there were a few bumps along the way, most notably the inept second half displays against Palace and West Brom but these were followed by the draw at Arsenal and the trouncing of Norwich and then Villa. The improvement in effort and performance was almost immediate. You and others just didn't want to see it. And still don't. |
hear, hear. |  | | |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 03:59 - May 12 with 1009 views | Parlay |
ECB still talking sense I see.
Good man. |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 08:15 - May 12 with 975 views | Devz00 |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 03:59 - May 12 by Parlay |
ECB still talking sense I see.
Good man. |
Parlay now disagreeing with DwightYorkeSuperstar. A controversial moment.  |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 13:35 - May 12 with 901 views | ItchySphincter |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:53 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
Interesting take on it. Probably just simpler to say that managers are criticised when their teams are doing badly and praised when they're doing well. Which I agree with, obviously.
Which do you think applies to us? Are we a good team which has had intermittent runs of bad form or a bad team which has been lifted by intermittent runs of good form? |
I've been saying for most of the season that we are a good team playing badly. The majority of the responsibility lays at the feet of the manager, or in our case the previous manager. |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 14:41 - May 12 with 876 views | Swanseajill |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:16 - May 11 by SimonSwansea |
I agree with this. I like some of DYSS posts but he's starting to do my head in now with the anti monk agenda, no offence meant of course, just a difference in opinion ;) [Post edited 11 May 2014 20:17]
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As DYSS is getting some differing opinions regarding GM from a growing amount of posters on here, not many are agreeing with his thoughts. His agenda will start for sure on Huw Jenkins now.
Then the whole club board, then the commercial department.
It's not a rule that you need to be a Swans fan to contribute to PS. And he has shown he's never one of those. |  | | |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 15:04 - May 12 with 854 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 14:41 - May 12 by Swanseajill |
As DYSS is getting some differing opinions regarding GM from a growing amount of posters on here, not many are agreeing with his thoughts. His agenda will start for sure on Huw Jenkins now.
Then the whole club board, then the commercial department.
It's not a rule that you need to be a Swans fan to contribute to PS. And he has shown he's never one of those. |
I thought my agenda against the board started months ago? I can't keep up with all the apparent agendas I apparently have and when they start and stop. It's sad to see you're continuing with your agenda against me though, Jill. |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 15:57 - May 12 with 825 views | ymaohyd |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 13:35 - May 12 by ItchySphincter |
I've been saying for most of the season that we are a good team playing badly. The majority of the responsibility lays at the feet of the manager, or in our case the previous manager. |
Although I like to think I know my football, I'm nowhere near clever enough to firstly guess what POD (Prince of Denmark, fed up of referring to him now, that isn't out of bitterness) was trying to achieve, in terms of our league form this season.
Thought we looked superb against Malmo, then league games I saw, he seemed to have changed the system. Whether or not that system change would have ultimately worked, I have no idea, the players however certainly weren't adapting to it and as many have observed on here, good players were looking average.
Not saying that as a club we shouldn't evolve our style to keep ahead of our competitors, it will be interesting to see what Monk does this summer. Certainly the Villa game gave food for thought or was that a one off game? |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 16:03 - May 12 with 818 views | JethroJack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 15:04 - May 12 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I thought my agenda against the board started months ago? I can't keep up with all the apparent agendas I apparently have and when they start and stop. It's sad to see you're continuing with your agenda against me though, Jill. |
You've got almost as many agendas as the 14 PM's you've sent me pleading for me to stop criticising you for your incessant criticism of my club.....all of which fell on deaf ears.
Game's up, good boy  | | | |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 17:12 - May 12 with 798 views | Oldjack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 19:59 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
More nonsense. At the start of Monk's time here we hammered Cardiff, got an excellent draw at Stoke, put in an excellent performance away at Liverpool, outplayed Napoli at the Liberty and gave a very good account of ourselves in Italy. Sure, there were a few bumps along the way, most notably the inept second half displays against Palace and West Brom but these were followed by the draw at Arsenal and the trouncing of Norwich and then Villa. The improvement in effort and performance was almost immediate. You and others just didn't want to see it. And still don't. |
Always spot on ,some people always look for negatives, never do they see the bigger picture ,and from where i'm sitting providing we can hang on to the better players the future looks very bright |  |
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You Greedy Bastards Get Out Of OUR Club!
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:16 - May 12 with 759 views | jacksinceever |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:16 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
We also did it right at the start of Monk's tenure, against Cardiff and again three days later at Stoke. And then there was the tremendous effort in losing to a then-rampant Liverpool team at Anfield by the odd goal in seven. And the draw against Napoli. If we really have to rationalise it to the nth degree we started very well under Monk, tailed off during the middle part of his time and ended the season well.
How's that sound? |
You can also add to that a Chelsea team we faced for the most part with 10 men and were still unfortunate to lose (IMO - based on part of game seen on Sky) |  | | |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 00:33 - May 13 with 719 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 20:16 - May 12 by jacksinceever |
You can also add to that a Chelsea team we faced for the most part with 10 men and were still unfortunate to lose (IMO - based on part of game seen on Sky) |
They created many excellent chances that game. They deserved the win. | |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 00:36 - May 13 with 719 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 00:33 - May 13 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They created many excellent chances that game. They deserved the win. |
They had 3 shots on target.
Routledge had the best chance of the game until they scored. |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 07:53 - May 13 with 686 views | Dewi1jack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 19:59 - May 11 by exiledclaseboy |
More nonsense. At the start of Monk's time here we hammered Cardiff, got an excellent draw at Stoke, put in an excellent performance away at Liverpool, outplayed Napoli at the Liberty and gave a very good account of ourselves in Italy. Sure, there were a few bumps along the way, most notably the inept second half displays against Palace and West Brom but these were followed by the draw at Arsenal and the trouncing of Norwich and then Villa. The improvement in effort and performance was almost immediate. You and others just didn't want to see it. And still don't. |
This.
There are 2 tv games people can watch, before and after ML's departure, to see the difference in the players attitudes.
Ladies and gents, I give you Crapduff away and Crapduff home [Post edited 13 May 2014 9:36]
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 10:36 - May 13 with 643 views | Dewi1jack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 00:33 - May 13 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They created many excellent chances that game. They deserved the win. |
How would you know when you were watching one of your beloved teams (Yernited or Crapduff, take your pick.)
Swansea 4 shots on target, Chelsea 3 shots on target. That doesn't appear to be many excellent chances, especially when this is a direct quote of yours
"When we play football matches, if the opposition get a shot on target it usually results in a goal. It has been one of our main downfalls this year. So many goals have been conceeded that make you think "Even Marshall would have gotten that one". Vorm / Tremmel have shipped way too many soft goals this season."
http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/forum/112476/page:2
Check your stats before making yourself look a bigger Fozzie on here than you possibly are in real life and Marshall has been a very decent keeper this year.
Shows what you understand about football.
Your knowledge could be written on the back of a postage stamp. And have room to lick it, without smudging the words
Word of advice, avoid football as a topic for your dissertation. And if it is, try bribery of the professors.
Good luck for your exams. Hope you do well (genuinely.) | |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 15:46 - May 13 with 619 views | JethroJack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 00:33 - May 13 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
They created many excellent chances that game. They deserved the win. |
Still playing with your fishing rod, I see.
Shouldn't you be swotting for your next extruciating Hydrology exam?
Here's a few questions of more direct interest to yourself......
Do you think you'll survive next season in Championship or continue your slide into League 1?
Do you think your manager Ole will survive the summer or follow Pepe Mel & Sherwood?
Do you think Vinny will turn you back to blue?
Do you think Malky will take the Norwich job and enjoy giving you 2 tonkings next season? [Post edited 13 May 2014 15:47]
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 16:24 - May 13 with 602 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 15:46 - May 13 by JethroJack |
Still playing with your fishing rod, I see.
Shouldn't you be swotting for your next extruciating Hydrology exam?
Here's a few questions of more direct interest to yourself......
Do you think you'll survive next season in Championship or continue your slide into League 1?
Do you think your manager Ole will survive the summer or follow Pepe Mel & Sherwood?
Do you think Vinny will turn you back to blue?
Do you think Malky will take the Norwich job and enjoy giving you 2 tonkings next season? [Post edited 13 May 2014 15:47]
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I had one this morning and one yesterday. Biodiversity on Friday afternoon is my final obstacle before I return to Swansea for the Summer. | |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 17:29 - May 13 with 578 views | sully49 |
Last season has come and gone. GM can, only realistically, be judged on what happens from now. This closed season will be watched and pros and cons therein. We have to look forward and get behind OUR Swans |  |
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| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 17:51 - May 13 with 563 views | JethroJack |
| Garry Monk - what a terrible start to his managerial career..... on 16:24 - May 13 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
I had one this morning and one yesterday. Biodiversity on Friday afternoon is my final obstacle before I return to Swansea for the Summer. |
Hope you didn't ignore some of the questions in your exams like you ignored the ones I posed about your favourite club  | | | |
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