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There are a few questions floating around the various websites about Swans directors and their shareholdings
We have 9 directors in total who are
Huw Jenkins Leigh Dineen Huw Cooze (Trust representative) John Van Zweden Steve Penney Don Keefe Gwilym Joseph MBE Martin Morgan Brian Katzen
We also have two associate directors in David Morgan and Will Morris - these are both non executive positions
Of these 9, 3 of them - Gwilyn, Don and Steve own no shares in the club with the share ownership made up as follows
Martin Morgan 225,000 shares Brian Katzen 200,000 shares Swansea City Supporters Trust 200,000 shares Huw Jenkins 125,000 shares Robert Davies 100,000 shares Leigh Dineen 50,000 shares John Van Zweden 50,000 shares
(Many of these shares are not listed to the individual but businesses associated to them but I have used individual names for ease)
Overall share issue is 950,000 shares
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Club Ownership / Directors on 01:08 - Jun 20 with 1277 views
Club Ownership / Directors on 23:29 - Jun 19 by londonlisa2001
To be honest, I wasn't talking about that sort of thing (although I don't dispute that they are important) - I was more referring to the way in which the club is run from an overall perspective.
To be fair, at least the ticket office is (or I believe it is anyway) being dealt with at the moment. I obviously only deal with all from afar and always online and I don't have first hand experience of it being bad - I realise though that lots of people have, but I tend to use one of my family's season tickets for matches in Swansea (which I get to far less than I would like) and mainly see away matches, and as a Jackarmy member since the start of the scheme, I have obviously just been lucky.
I think it is all part of the same thing and indicative of our professionalism as a PL outfit. We too are long term season ticket holders / Jack Army memberships from the outset. Go to most away matches (although not away season ticket holders). Not just a moaning minge, in fact normally really grateful when I get practical friendly helpful customer service but honestly on a few occasions.
The things that were said even after one issue was referred to the Board (on my exasperated insistence) and supposedly also checked with the FA! I could have laughed if it didn't totally defy any logic and wasted hours. They were absolutely insistent until I finally read an excerpt from the website to them showing they were clearly wrong (despite their repeated insistence otherwise when I had previously made it clear to them what they were quoting not only made no sense but was not their policy).
Been dealing with them for years - but got worse since PL. This latest thing seemed to be a new broom addressing certain loopholes in the system (which were obvious and needed to be addressed - as do many other inefficiencies). What was lacked was a proper understanding of the whole process. or the actual policies or how to deal with customers (and I was speaking with long experience of our various ticketing rules and their implementation - as well as being no stranger to the concept of effective business processes).
I know of overseas fans who have received very poor service / communication when attempting to buy kit. I have also acted as an intermediary when there was no clearly advertised arrangement when overseas fans wanted to buy tickets for European away games. Communication is key.
These matters have been discussed many times on here, as recently the move to (is it) Ticketmaster. I also fear for this when they quoted that the new system will do away with ticket stubs (which they astoundingly seemed unaware had been done 2 years ago). This change was said to be done in response to listening to customers concerns however I would be surprised if they have done any detailed analysis into the full and exact nature of the problems and whether a ticketing system such as they are now implementing will address these or even just cause more issues. Much to do on many fronts but these things I mention should be the easy ones for anyone with decent relevant experience.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 08:50 - Jun 20 with 1208 views
Club Ownership / Directors on 01:08 - Jun 20 by Spratty
I think it is all part of the same thing and indicative of our professionalism as a PL outfit. We too are long term season ticket holders / Jack Army memberships from the outset. Go to most away matches (although not away season ticket holders). Not just a moaning minge, in fact normally really grateful when I get practical friendly helpful customer service but honestly on a few occasions.
The things that were said even after one issue was referred to the Board (on my exasperated insistence) and supposedly also checked with the FA! I could have laughed if it didn't totally defy any logic and wasted hours. They were absolutely insistent until I finally read an excerpt from the website to them showing they were clearly wrong (despite their repeated insistence otherwise when I had previously made it clear to them what they were quoting not only made no sense but was not their policy).
Been dealing with them for years - but got worse since PL. This latest thing seemed to be a new broom addressing certain loopholes in the system (which were obvious and needed to be addressed - as do many other inefficiencies). What was lacked was a proper understanding of the whole process. or the actual policies or how to deal with customers (and I was speaking with long experience of our various ticketing rules and their implementation - as well as being no stranger to the concept of effective business processes).
I know of overseas fans who have received very poor service / communication when attempting to buy kit. I have also acted as an intermediary when there was no clearly advertised arrangement when overseas fans wanted to buy tickets for European away games. Communication is key.
These matters have been discussed many times on here, as recently the move to (is it) Ticketmaster. I also fear for this when they quoted that the new system will do away with ticket stubs (which they astoundingly seemed unaware had been done 2 years ago). This change was said to be done in response to listening to customers concerns however I would be surprised if they have done any detailed analysis into the full and exact nature of the problems and whether a ticketing system such as they are now implementing will address these or even just cause more issues. Much to do on many fronts but these things I mention should be the easy ones for anyone with decent relevant experience.
All jokes aside you don't stop f*cking moaning you must be the most boring football fan in the history of football fans,the fact you wanted the club to lose a court case (your words) if Laudrup had been shafted speaks volumes.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
Club Ownership / Directors on 08:50 - Jun 20 by Darran
All jokes aside you don't stop f*cking moaning you must be the most boring football fan in the history of football fans,the fact you wanted the club to lose a court case (your words) if Laudrup had been shafted speaks volumes.
I'm not clear why Spratty gets such a hard time for that view?
The club is run by grown ups who knew the details of and signed the contract with ML. Those grown ups then later decided to dispense with MLs services. That same contract will set out the obligations of the club following that decision. The club should follow those obligations: no more, no less.
I'd be really disappointed if the club decided to knowingly renege on those obligations (shafted, as you put it). It's not the way a good business is run. It's not the way the club likes to portray itself.
There can always be differences in interpretation - but that's not "shafting" someone. If the club deliberately set out to shaft someone, anyone, I would hope the court would redress the situation too. That's their job.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 09:21 - Jun 20 with 1172 views
Club Ownership / Directors on 09:12 - Jun 20 by jackonicko
I'm not clear why Spratty gets such a hard time for that view?
The club is run by grown ups who knew the details of and signed the contract with ML. Those grown ups then later decided to dispense with MLs services. That same contract will set out the obligations of the club following that decision. The club should follow those obligations: no more, no less.
I'd be really disappointed if the club decided to knowingly renege on those obligations (shafted, as you put it). It's not the way a good business is run. It's not the way the club likes to portray itself.
There can always be differences in interpretation - but that's not "shafting" someone. If the club deliberately set out to shaft someone, anyone, I would hope the court would redress the situation too. That's their job.
That's all true enough. Given the near £100m turnover these days, there's absolutely no reason why the club should not always fully meet its obligations and as you say it would totally send the wrong message if they played silly buggers for no reason.
However the view in this case was that they hoped Laudrup was in the right. Very odd.
Club Ownership / Directors on 08:50 - Jun 20 by Darran
All jokes aside you don't stop f*cking moaning you must be the most boring football fan in the history of football fans,the fact you wanted the club to lose a court case (your words) if Laudrup had been shafted speaks volumes.
Not my words Darran - what a pathetic liar you are
Either prove evidence of my saying this or stop repeating your sad lies for post counts
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Club Ownership / Directors on 09:33 - Jun 20 with 1154 views
Club Ownership / Directors on 09:12 - Jun 20 by jackonicko
I'm not clear why Spratty gets such a hard time for that view?
The club is run by grown ups who knew the details of and signed the contract with ML. Those grown ups then later decided to dispense with MLs services. That same contract will set out the obligations of the club following that decision. The club should follow those obligations: no more, no less.
I'd be really disappointed if the club decided to knowingly renege on those obligations (shafted, as you put it). It's not the way a good business is run. It's not the way the club likes to portray itself.
There can always be differences in interpretation - but that's not "shafting" someone. If the club deliberately set out to shaft someone, anyone, I would hope the court would redress the situation too. That's their job.
He said he's not a moaning minge,nearly every post he makes is moaning.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
Club Ownership / Directors on 09:21 - Jun 20 by Uxbridge
That's all true enough. Given the near £100m turnover these days, there's absolutely no reason why the club should not always fully meet its obligations and as you say it would totally send the wrong message if they played silly buggers for no reason.
However the view in this case was that they hoped Laudrup was in the right. Very odd.
"However the view in this case was that they hoped Laudrup was in the right. Very odd."
That is indeed most definitely not the case, I said
"I hope fairness prevails"
In actual fact the opposite of what you say is true because I did not want to believe our club would treat anyone who had achieved so much for it so shabbily without strong reason.
What is odd to me is that anyone with a modicum of intelligence would promote Darran's divisive lies. So if you have any concept of fairness and balance perhaps you would back your accusations up with the non existant proof. Or will you just dance around it - better to falsely accuse someone than to be honest and look bad yourself?
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Club Ownership / Directors on 09:54 - Jun 20 with 1117 views
Club Ownership / Directors on 01:00 - Jun 20 by Starsky
Was I talking to you? No. So butt out.
It's a forum get used to it.
Perhaps you need to read back through this thread and others and see you need to take your own advice (which you seem to regularly want to give others the unsolicited "benefit" of)
Club Ownership / Directors on 09:48 - Jun 20 by Spratty
"However the view in this case was that they hoped Laudrup was in the right. Very odd."
That is indeed most definitely not the case, I said
"I hope fairness prevails"
In actual fact the opposite of what you say is true because I did not want to believe our club would treat anyone who had achieved so much for it so shabbily without strong reason.
What is odd to me is that anyone with a modicum of intelligence would promote Darran's divisive lies. So if you have any concept of fairness and balance perhaps you would back your accusations up with the non existant proof. Or will you just dance around it - better to falsely accuse someone than to be honest and look bad yourself?
You said that if Laudrup had been shafted you wanted the club to lose a court case and Uxbridge told you no Swans fan would want that.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
Club Ownership / Directors on 09:56 - Jun 20 by Darran
You said that if Laudrup had been shafted you wanted the club to lose a court case and Uxbridge told you no Swans fan would want that.
I never once mentioned wanting the club to lose a court case.
Ux did jump in having a rant which threw accusations of things I had never said. Roundly slagging off Laudrup for everything but starting WWI and incorrectly suggesting I wanted our club to have to pay out huge amounts of compensation to Laudrup.
However the net result of me wanting fairness to prevail would indeed be Laudrup getting from our club any compensation that was fairly due to him. I made it clear I would not be happy with us having to pay out huge amounts but our need to do that that would be down to those that agreed his contract and the actions taken led to him being due compensation (if indeed he was).
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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:16 - Jun 20 with 1094 views
Club Ownership / Directors on 09:56 - Jun 20 by Darran
You said that if Laudrup had been shafted you wanted the club to lose a court case and Uxbridge told you no Swans fan would want that.
I'm not going to go trawling the threads for the original discussion, but if he put it as you did there, then I stand by my post above. Don't see the issue.
I still count myself as a swans fan though.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 10:32 - Jun 20 with 1080 views
Club Ownership / Directors on 10:09 - Jun 20 by Spratty
I never once mentioned wanting the club to lose a court case.
Ux did jump in having a rant which threw accusations of things I had never said. Roundly slagging off Laudrup for everything but starting WWI and incorrectly suggesting I wanted our club to have to pay out huge amounts of compensation to Laudrup.
However the net result of me wanting fairness to prevail would indeed be Laudrup getting from our club any compensation that was fairly due to him. I made it clear I would not be happy with us having to pay out huge amounts but our need to do that that would be down to those that agreed his contract and the actions taken led to him being due compensation (if indeed he was).
Yes you did you said you wanted Laudrup to win.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
Club Ownership / Directors on 10:32 - Jun 20 by Darran
Yes you did you said you wanted Laudrup to win.
Prove that Darran - or stop your sick bullying lies
I resurrected the thread recently and you said you would have to apologise. So what has changed now. Honestly Darran I hope you don't let your gandson think it is ok to bully people for entertainment as it is a sorry reflection on the person doing it.
I have seen openly depressed people hounded off this website for fun and pitiful as such behaviour is it is totally unacceptable.
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Club Ownership / Directors on 11:01 - Jun 20 with 1038 views
Club Ownership / Directors on 10:55 - Jun 20 by Spratty
Prove that Darran - or stop your sick bullying lies
I resurrected the thread recently and you said you would have to apologise. So what has changed now. Honestly Darran I hope you don't let your gandson think it is ok to bully people for entertainment as it is a sorry reflection on the person doing it.
I have seen openly depressed people hounded off this website for fun and pitiful as such behaviour is it is totally unacceptable.
Ah right the bullying card is out. You said if your beloved Michael had been shafted you wanted him to win a court case. FACT
Just goes to show what type of person you are mentioning my grandson too,I'm sure most people can see you for the c-nt you are.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
Club Ownership / Directors on 11:27 - Jun 20 by Spratty
Then prove it Darran.
I don't need to,if my memory serves me well you said that you wanted fairness (obviously for Mikey) and you then said if Mikey had been done over you wanted him to win the court case if there was to be one.
The first ever recipient of a Planet Swans Lifetime Achievement Award.
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